Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: Coconspirator and Accomplice Liability

Friday, January 9, 2014

Good afternoon:

The first 1200 people summoned for jury service in the Boston Marathon Bombing Case have completed the 28 page juror questionnaire. Prosecution and defense counsel will be busy this weekend reviewing the questionnaires in preparation for voir dire that will start Monday. I believe we can reasonably expect Judge O’Toole will excuse about half of the group for financial hardship due to the length of the trial that is expected to extend into June. Students, teachers, self-employed business owners, single parents with young children and people with prepaid vacations are typically excused.

Several people have asked me to explain coconspirator and accomplice liability under federal law. State prosecutors rarely charge people with conspiracy, so most people don’t know much about it.

A conspiracy is an agreement by two or more people to commit a specific crime and the commission of an overt act by one of them in furtherance of the conspiracy. Often, the overt act is a crime, but it does not have to be. For example, purchasing fireworks is not a crime if you are old enough, but it could be an overt act in furtherance of a conspiracy to build a bomb using the gunpowder in the fireworks. Indeed, overt act 19 alleges that Tamerlan Tsarnaev traveled to Phantom Fireworks in Seabrook, New Hampshire on or about February 6, 2013, where he purchased 48 mortars containing about 8 pounds of low grade gunpowder for use in furtherance of the conspiracy charged in Count 1 (conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction resulting in death).

A member of a conspiracy is responsible for all crimes committed by other members of the conspiracy, even if he did not know that the person who committed the crime was a member of the conspiracy or that he was going to commit that crime, so long as it was reasonably foreseeable that some member of the conspiracy would commit that crime.

Mere knowledge of the existence of a conspiracy, or presence at a location where a crime is committed by a member of the conspiracy, is not sufficient to establish guilt and there is no affirmative duty to inform police about the conspiracy.

Federal prosecutors typically structure indictments by charging a conspiracy to commit a specific crime in count 1 and allege any number of overt acts committed in furtherance of the conspiracy alleged in that count. Every member of the alleged conspiracy is accused of committing at least one of the overt acts. Overt acts that constitute crimes are added as separate counts in the indictment.

For example, in Overt Act 31 of Count I, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is accused of killing MIT Police Officer Sean Collier by shooting him in the head at close range with a Ruger 9mm P95 semiautomatic handgun and attempting to steal his service weapon.

In Count 16 he is charged with possessing and using a firearm during the course of the conspiracy to murder Officer Sean Collier.

The government’s theory regarding the purpose for this shooting is that the Tsarnaev brothers only had one gun (Tamerlan’s Ruger 9mm P95 semiautomatic) and they wanted to obtain a second gun for Dzhokhar, so they sneaked up on him while he was sitting in his patrol vehicle and Tamerlan executed him with a single shot to the head. However, they were unable to get the gun out of the holster.

The government will argue that Dzhokhar is legally responsible for that shooting, even though he did not shoot the officer, because he was a member of the conspiracy and the shooting was an overt act committed by Tamerlan in furtherance of the conspiracy.

The government has a second argument to hold Dzhokhar accountable for the murder based 18 USC 2(a), which provides in pertinent part:

Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.

This is the federal accomplice liability statute by which someone who assists another to commit a crime is as responsible as the person who committed the crime.

I hope this explanation helps readers to understand coconspirator and accomplice liability under federal law.

If we assume for the sake of argument that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will be convicted on all counts on the basis of his own acts and on the basis of coconspirator and accomplice liability for acts committed by Tamerlan, that does not mean that his arguably lesser role would not result in an LWOP sentence instead of death. A lesser role is a mitigation factor as are his youth and subservient relationship to his brother.

I believe this case probably will boil down to whether one or more members of the jury decide that the evidence in support of those three factors merits an LWOP sentence. That is why I have stated that this case is not about winning or losing. It’s about living or dying.

59 Responses to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: Coconspirator and Accomplice Liability

  1. MDX says:

    A few years ago, in the flat land of central Florida a mystery man appeared….

    A man with a stupid, slack jawed face….


  2. MDX says:

    A lot of typical “Fogenage” in the reports, eh?

    1) It appears that there was one intimate act during the relationship in which it is clear that Fogen was giving her a place to stay in exchange for sexual favors.

    Well, although one day with Django (1966 movie) will last and eternity, six seconds with a pee shooter tends to leave no lasting impression 🙂 So I can see why the lady refused his offer to take the relationship farther.

    2) And part of the argument was over a painting.

    Ah yes, the failed artist with delusions of power.

    Anyhow, here is the trailer for Django:

    I bring up the Franco Nero character because I feel, this is how Fogen, sees himself in his self-delusion, wherein, in actuality he is more aptly named – Dribble.

    Just a rant for the day.

  3. Malisha says:

    Once I read the police report I concluded:

    1. That the police had it right, and the story was that Fogen committed domestic violence and this time did not use a handgun;

    2. That the usual Fogen-acts of avoidance were habitually used by him and West but they didn’t, this time, seem to infect the cops.

    3. That ultimately this will go nowhere because the chick will mess up the case with her obvious ambivalence about prosecution.

    4. That the irritating, boring, white-boy-privilege Fogensaga will go on…. and on….. and on…… until the last syllable of recorded denial (and/or until somebody puts Fogen out of our misery).

    • MDX says:

      On a more serious note, I feel the PD is keeping and eye on Fogen because they know that, if a white person becomes his next victim, there will be hell to pay.

      I find it interesting that cops were around to hear the bottle break.

      And the Right Wing has a meme – Fogen has been driven buts by liberal persecution.

      So, if a cop “offs” him during a traffic stop due to “fearing for his or her life”, the useful idiot who has become toxic can perform his last act.

      I can see the Right Wing saying:

      “Oh my, it is so tragic that the good police officer had to kill poor little Fogen due to what those evil liberals did.”

      When the musics over

      Turn out the lights

  4. MDX says:

    More info on the Fogenrat.

    Some quoted text:

    “George Zimmerman became angry and threw a wine bottle at his ex-girlfriend when she tried to break up with him, according to a police report released Monday.

    Zimmerman denied throwing the bottle and disputed her claim that he destroyed her cell phone last week, according to the report, which chronicles his latest run-in with police since he was acquitted of murdering Trayvon Martin in 2013. The killing of the unarmed black teen touched off protests across the country.

    Instead, Zimmerman said, he was only trying to prevent her from entering his home.

    The former neighborhood watch volunteer was arrested Friday in Lake Mary and charged with aggravated assault. He was released Saturday on $5,000 bond.

    Zimmerman didn’t respond to a message left on his cell phone Monday by The Associated Press.

    Officers patrolling the neighborhood where Zimmerman lives last week heard the sound of glass shattering, and then saw the former girlfriend drive out of the driveway. They pulled her over for a traffic stop a few streets over because she didn’t have her lights on.

    She explained that Zimmerman became angry after she told him she didn’t want to take the relationship further, and they also argued over a painting she had that he wanted returned. Zimmerman made threats and threw the wine bottle, which didn’t hit her, she said.

    Detectives described her as “extremely emotional, crying, mad and upset” and said she became reluctant to cooperate when she realized that officers might be conducting an investigation. She called her former boyfriend “that psycho, George Zimmerman” and said several times that she should have known better than to get involved with him.

    The ex-girlfriend, whose name is redacted, told investigators that she had had an “intimate relationship” with Zimmerman since the end of last year.

    “She indicated that this began at a time when she was emotionally vulnerable,” the report said.

    Zimmerman was arrested at his house on Friday, four days after the confrontation. Detectives said in the police report that he refused to come to the door for more than two hours despite their repeated knocking. They said they could hear the television on and a dog barking.

    Zimmerman eventually came outside after police officers agreed to allow him to keep his attorney on his cell phone with him while he was interviewed, the report said.

    Zimmerman was acquitted in 2013 of a second-degree murder charge for shooting Martin in a gated community in Sanford, Florida. The Justice Department has yet to say whether it will file federal civil rights charges against Zimmerman, who said he shot Martin in self-defense during a confrontation in February 2012. Relatives of Martin accused Zimmerman of racially profiling the teen…”

    • Disappointed says:

      Wouldn’t answer the door for more than 2 hours!? The police have a lot of patience for Fogen. Why 2 hours? Can you imagine Mike Brown asking to stay on his phone? Or Mike making cops wait 2 hours. Smh.

      • MDX says:

        I read in other articles that Fogen claims she threw the bottle at him and he was keeping her out of the home. Broken glass was found on the driveway.

        I think the prosecution told the lady who was reluctant to get involved in charges face a choice – its either you or him who threw that bottle that an officer heard break, so one of you gets charged.

        I bring this up because I am trying to figure out why they arrested him four days later.

        I got a feeling the community feels he is a cancer and is putting heat on the PD to get rid of him.

        • Dave says:

          If she didn’t enter the house, she would have either had an empty wine bottle in her car or found it outside (if Zimmerman is to be believed).

          • MDX says:

            Or he threw it at her as she was fleeing. I see a he said vs. she said, that does not warrant charges. So there must be something more or the PD is sending George a message.

          • Dave says:

            I just meant to point out that if the woman didn’t enter the house, as I believe Zimmerman stated, it’s damned unlikely that she would have had access to a bottle to throw at him.

        • gblock says:

          Seems very possible that that the police in that community is keeping an eye on him because this isn’t the first time that he has caused a disturbance there.

    • Annie Cabani says:

      Here’s the police report:

      Click to access Arrest-Report–Zimmerman-domestic-violence-incident.pdf

      It’s the cops actually pursuing charges, not the victim. He didn’t help himself by trying to evade the cops and then lying to them (the lead cop wrote that Zimmerthug’s story wasn’t credible!). I think the cops are finally seeing him for the lying bum and thug he actually is!

      • Malisha says:

        Two hours in the house refusing to come to the door while the police are knocking????!?!?!?!?!!! Uh…

        Let’s just say he’s a Black man from Ohio. Police knock. He doesn’t come to the door. Dog barks, TV is on. Police knock down the door and shoot him 41 times (and shoot the dog twice). They were in fear for their lives.

        OMG What is WRONG WITH US???

  5. so jaded says:

    Good article about criminals with rap sheets employed by law enforcement. “German Bosque” of oka loxka fl is a legend. Pretty scary stuff. There is no accountability in law enforcement. The iunions act as enforcers it’s frightening. Regular people like us are sitting ducks.

  6. Malisha says:

    Where is the commentary from Fogen’s sincere, loving brother? Where is the information about what a thug the alleged victim of his assault is? Hadn’t the family (and kow-towing neighbors) better get going creating pictures of poor Fogen’s bloody head and abused bashed-in face? Get started downloading those evidentiary creations, you lying punks, there’s no time to spare. Hurry, call Dershowitz to start ranting about the police arresting a poor guy just for being “unlucky with ladies” because THAT’s a CONSTITOO-SHUN-ALL violation of his American rights! Zoom into action, ye heroes of the defenders of American white manhood, your guy is being threatened again by the forces of evil! Quick, give chubby deckers a few gallons of red, white and blue paint so he can do some art therapy. And remember: “My wife’s a mess.” That’s the rallying cry. Never forget.

    • so jaded says:

      U R funny. Apparently fogen and racist Robbie are now best buds. I think this womAn will be paid off just like Blondie was. Then she will claim she was intimidated by police. One thing I know for sure is that he will kill again.

    • gblock says:

      Except this time, wouldn’t it be “My girlfriend is a mess?

  7. MDX says:

    I agree about the PTSD.

    That’s an ugly thing that often stays with the person to the day they die. We had one gentleman who would come in to the store during blizzards – it was a two block walk for him. The weather was his trigger. He would look at you, say “God it was cold in Korea and we had to sleep under the tanks to stay alive”. The look in his eyes when he said that is something I will not forget.

    Fogen on the other hand is a self-absorbed cowardly shit who I doubt the killing of another human by his own hand bothered.

    IMO, he is like one of those SS concentration camp leaders I read about who would kill a Jewish person in the morning and be the life of the party in the evening.

    In fact, that is one of the most chilling aspects of the Holocaust – these monsters had scrap books with demeaning remarks about their victims along with a photo on one page with the next page having pictures of them partying like this was the time of their life,

    And the tree humpers are not far from that, are they?

    I am sure they make lots of cheeky remarks about the victims of Fogen and Wilson.

    They dehumanize the victim to the status of an animal or thing.

    And the Bible does not deem killing an animal or thing a sin.

    They can shove guns, God and the flag up their ass.

    • Nef05 says:

      Agree. I feel you’re only susceptible to PTSD is you’ve genuinely been traumatized. Not only do I feel he was NOT traumatized, but I feel he thought he was right (under Malisha’s “Sovereign Citizen” belief). I believe he thought Trayvon had it coming because a bacl man didn’t recognize his “authoriteh” AND I believe he enjoyed both the killing and getting away with it!

      That’s not PTSD. That’s narcissistic personality pathology with pathological tendencies. Look at the molestation of his cousin.

  8. Nef05 says:

    I’ve been wanting to come in and post some fully thought out posts, especially since the Prof was so kind as to honor my request for his opinion of the McCulloch developments. Unfortunately, the same day I lost my beloved furbaby after a valiant 15 months fight against renal failure. She was my heart and my bedridden mom’s constant companion. It’s been a rough few days.

    That said: Fogen is about the most remedial loser walking the face of the Earth. He just doesn’t learn, or his hubris insists he’s above the law. It doesn’t help that the bimbos recant/refuse to press charges, and certainly doesn’t help when the nuthouse (which you know he reads to bolster his narcissism) blames anyone, everyone AND PTSD (which they probably wouldn’t know if it bit them on the nose!) and insist it’s a set up and the BGI/liberal media is involved (surprise, surprise). The best they could come to holding him accountable is to say he needs “help” because he keeps choosing the wrong women, and he needs to move because everyone in FL is out to get him (paranoid, much?).

    It NEVER f*kking occurs to them that this is just really who he is – an overly aggressive, disloyal , greedy(begsite and how he spent it), control freak, prideful (for no damn reason), short-tempered, Napoleonic complex having, no impulse control, Gluttonous (we all saw the trial), wannabe cop(Envy and lust as in the desire for “authoriteh”), NPD w/sociopathic tendencies, lying, cheating(lust- had new blonde before Shelly knew), stealing (lawyer’s unpaid fees for services) mother passive/aggressive (attachment disorder?), dog kicking, woman abusing, child murdering (wrath is clear here), cousin molesting POS! The only one I can’t place is sloth and considering he exemplifies the other 6, I’m betting this one didn’t get left out.

    He doesn’t have PTSD. That’s nonsense and an insult to our troops who face REAL combat. He’s nothing more than a loser, who emcompasses the WORST in a human being, which is why he literally cannot stop from showing everyone his true colors. I despise him more than I could ever say.

    • Malisha says:

      Right about now, his past-tense fan club, Taaffe, his air-marshall, Shellie, Samantha and Jeralyn Merritt (and the six punkbrain jurors) are nowhere to be heard/seen. Embarrassed any? Oh I wish. Oh I wish. But you can count on the fact that they don’t shame easy.

      • Nef05 says:

        No doubt, Malisha. Goodness forbid they should have to acknowledge they were willfully and intentionally blind and racist. Admit the so called ” BGI” and “liberal media” had it right? The dinosaurs will come back first!

    • Annie Cabani says:

      Nef, I am so sorry about your loss of your furbaby.

      Your comments make total sense, as always.

      • Nef05 says:

        Thank you so much, Annie. I always say if your furbaby is not a family member, you’re not doing it right. Your sympathy/empathy is so very much appreciated!!!

  9. Dave says:

    Zimmerman left the courthouse with the same guy he was with when he bonded out last time. They left in a red BMW license No. W39 3RH. Is this the bail bondsman?

  10. Malisha says:

    I have read a couple of (repetitive, superficial) accounts of Fogen’s most recent arrest. Just for the fun of it I’m going to guess what happened: He had another fit and abused his current foolish female. She threatened him with prosecution, and fled in her car. He chose to call the cops ON HER and allege that she had abused HIM so he could get his story in first. He gave the cops her car’s tag #s and within a short time she was pulled over by the cops. She was questioned by the cops and came up sounding more credible than he sounded (which is what would have happened if Fogen had not killed Trayvon Martin; when questioned, Trayvon Martin would have sounded credible about his behavior and whether or not the racist Sanford cops believed him, there would have been a possibility of Fogen not coming out “on top”) so the cops did not arrest her and she proceeded home. Then the cops made their report and the next step was to question Fogen himself and investigate. After a couple of days, the prosecutor’s office and the police together decided that the person arrested would be Fogen, and not his victim.

    Anyway that’s my guess on this one. More info. will come out soon.

    Whoever that woman is, she’s a slow learner, but I hope she follows through and doesn’t do another “Samantha” in the Fogen Shakesword Theater of the Observed.

    • MDX says:

      I believe there will be a press conference, on Monday.

      • Malisha says:

        I haven’t seen a press conference yet but I did read that the argument was about a piece of “artwork” that he had given her.

        Uh… art work? Two words that are foreign to the whole Fogen concept.

        Here’s my prediction: Fogen gave her one of his “creations” to hold onto when he was doing something fraudulent about the e-bay listings or something. Then he decided he wanted it back and she didn’t agree. He “went off” of course, since that is how he has been taught to deal with problems.

        Let’s see …

    • Dave says:

      Malisha, I think you’ve pretty well nailed it but I’ll add one more thing. Since it would appear that the victim and the suspect had been drinking, Zimmerman probably told the cops that she was driving drunk, which would give them probable cause for a stop.

      • Annie Cabani says:

        OMG, Malisha and Dave, you are SO on target – what a stroke of genius, Malisha! That TOTALLY fits Zimmerthug’s modus operandi!!

        Now that you’ve got me thinking … I’ll add:

        After setting the police on the foolish female, Zimmerthug then INTENTIONALLY “made himself scarce” in Lake Mary (at least at his parents’ house, where he’s apparently mooching these days) – thus frustrating the cops’ ability to “contact” him for four days.

  11. Malisha says:

    It’s interesting. Suddenly (since about October) there are lots and lots of re-runs of cop shows where a cop gets totally railroaded for a “bad shoot” when he did no such thing and where the criminals (who really were bad actors) are using “police brutality” claims to protect their criminal enterprises. The picture that we are being shown over and over again is that any cop trying to defend himself or his fellow officers is mercilessly targeted, lied about, deprived of his rights, subjected to corrupt grand jury proceedings that victimize him, etc. etc. etc. and his family is threatened, his life is destroyed, and his righteous position is totally invalidated — these messages are being played to teach us something. Even videos are shown that appear to make it clear that the police did wrong, when in fact they did not. They are trying to teach us that all our perceptions are wrong.

    • MDX says:

      It is part of the propaganda to “educate” the upper middle class as to how it really is on those mean streets. The stereotypes internalized are then tapped by skillful prosecutors or, well paid defenders, to makes sure largely comfortable and sheltered middle class jurors keep those people in their place.

      I believe that you have told us how you had an encounter with this type of propaganda when you confronted a person making a claim that Sanford was a very violent and dangerous neighborhood.

      Some of Chucky George’s fans make it sound like walking in Sanford is equivalent of standing in front of the Detroit Gentleman’s Club wearing an I Love David Duke T shirt.

      • Malisha says:

        People who grow up angry and afraid like Fogen have had, almost always, a childhood experience of being physically and emotionally abused. In my unstudied opinion, the most common combination of childhood adverse experiences that results in the rage quotient and fear underpinning present in Fogen is a cold, punitive and threatening mother and an over-controlling, physically violent father. This looks like it was the reality for Fogen and his misbegotten siblings, considering Gladys and the “bombocloth” Magistrate from Virginia… 👿

  12. so jaded says:

    But…but…MOM said that fogen was going to go to law school to help disadvantaged youth…What happened???

    • Malisha says:

      He did help disadvantage youth! He completely disadvantaged a youth in less than seven minutes! Who needs law school when you can use a gun! 👿

  13. Kelly Payne says:

    This crap is getting old,like a bad tv show where we hate the main character.

  14. Disappointed says:

    Why does West make it sound like Fogen’s problems come from the shooting? What about before the shooting? Fogen was out of control then. People need to stop with excuses. Sometimes people are just bad. Stupid. Entitled. Abusers. Killers. Disgusting.

    • gblock says:

      Because there are still people out there who want to believe that Fogen is a hero, and they have to be pandered to at all costs. After all, they are they people who make the contributions to his defense fund.

  15. towerflower says:

    West confirms it was not Sam but a different woman. The Lake Mary PD will release video and reports on Monday.

    After the bottle was thrown the victim left the home and was pulled over by the PD shortly afterwards where she told the police about the incident. It has taken 4 days for the police to finally interview him and they arrested him after that investigation.

    • Malisha says:

      (1) I wonder if the wine was Ripple; and

      (2) Now will we see a new painting selling on E-BAY of a wine bottle with an American flag?

      (3) Does Frank Taaffe know about this yet? We must hold our breath for HIS next interview. 😆

  16. Dave says:

    Here’s an updated link:

    The incident occurred at Zimmerman’s parents’ home (where he is currently living). I’m wondering whether they were there.

    Also, no ankle bracelet.

    • racerrodig says:

      So it goes down like this …..

      “uuhhhmmmmm, mom, dad…..I uhmmmm have a date so could you guys make yourselves scarce……uhmmmmm, I don’t want any witnesses…..I mean, I need some privacy.”

      The same house they allegedly had to leave forever because of all the death threats…….yeah…..

      Did mom and dadda go out with or without their bullet proof vests?

  17. Malisha says:

    I want Fogen to one day pick on someone his OWN SIZE. Then he will be gone off our radar for good and all time.

    • MDX says:

      If only he could meet up with my wife’s friend.

      He is a stocky, rough looking black male, with a love of children and teens, who is an ex-MMA fighter, a martial arts teacher at local university, and a bodyguard.

      One late night, as he was walking home from HU, a man with a knife assaulted him.

      After taking the knife away, he gave it back to the man and said: “Want to try that again?”

      He is a scary dude in an Anton Chigurh kind of way.

      And he has a big problem with men who pick on women, children and teens.

      And he is about the same size as Fogen.

    • Malisha says:

      Uh Oh, no blood on his widdow nosey wosey? He might get convicted this time. He better cook up some real fear of suspicious-looking women before court. Don West is representing him? Oh…well I guess it’s time for him to go buy ice cream with airheads then.

  18. MDX says:

    What is accepted as a deadly weapon from link:

    the use of a beer bottle to strike the alleged victim on the head. Cloninger v. State, 846 So. 2d 1192 (Fla. 4th DCA 2003)

    Keep in mind that actually striking a person with a bottle is battery. So the law cited above establishes that throwing a bottle is deemed an aggravated assault in that George made a threat with a deadly weapon.

    • Dave says:

      A handheld bottle used as a club is certainly a deadly weapon. A thrown bottle…maybe and maybe not.

      Did the bottle strike the victim? Was it aimed at her? If so was it aimed at her head or elsewhere? How hard was it thrown? (Did it break?) How far from the victim was the perp?

      Zimmerman has a history of intimidating women by destroying things. This incident might lead to a conviction for misdemeanor assault (and as a domestic violence offense it would cost him his right to own firearms) but, unless the victim was hit in the head, I don’t think a felony conviction is likely.

      • I don’t have answers to any of your questions, but I do have an observation. Don West appeared at his initial appearance at 9 am and told the judge he would be representing him. I don’t think West would get out of bed on a Saturday morning and appear in court by 9 am, if he hadn’t been paid a sizeable retainer and I don’t think Zimmerman would have come up with the money unless he was pretty desperate. He was booked into the jail sometime after 9 pm last night.

      • MDX says:

        Being a legal blog, I figure this is a valuable discussion. So here are the factors as presented by what I linked:

        The accused intentionally and unlawfully threatened, by word or act, to do violence to the alleged victim,

        At the time the threat was made, the accused appeared to have the ability to carry out the threat
        The accused’s threat created in the mind of the alleged victim a well-founded fear that the violence was about to take place,and

        The assault was made either with a deadly weapon or with a fully formed conscious intent to commit a felony.

        To me, throwing a wine bottle meets all four, if the reasonable standard is applied. Beyond a reasonable doubt should be settled by a trial or a deal with the prosecutor.

        And Dave, your argument is very valid and oh so ironic.

        West, the man who was part of the “deadly concrete” defense will now have to counter the “deadly” wine bottle.

        Zimmerman, IMO, is a pandering, liar not capable of standing on his own legs. So my theory is that West arrived after “Chucky Georgie” called his father and mother.

        • Dave says:

          Ah yes! The Deadly Sidewalk! I predict some serious arguments over the question of when an ordinary object–a rope, a pencil, a wine bottle, a sidewalk…becomes a deadly weapon. The outcome of this case might depend on this question.

  19. MDX says:

    It appears that this act is, at least, a third degree felony. Of course, there is the probability that the charges will be dropped.

    If this case is pressed, I doubt George will do time. But we can hope that a fine and loss of his guns is a result.

    This guys is a loose cannon who will eventually kill again out of petulant rage – which is what he did to Trayvon.

  20. According to Channel 13 News


    A Seminole County judge has set $5,000 bond for George Zimmerman, who was arrested Friday night in Lake Mary.

    The 31-year-old was booked around 9:45 p.m. on charges of aggravated assault and domestic violence with a weapon. According to Don West, Zimmerman’s attorney, his client threw a wine bottle during the incident.

    Zimmerman is prohibited from contacting the victim, returning to her home or entering Volusia County. He must surrender all firearms by Tuesday and will also wear a GPS monitoring device.

    He is due back in court at 1:30 p.m. Feb. 17 in front of Judge Donna McIntosh.

    • Malisha says:

      Which stupid woman did he attack this time? Is it still Blondie “Take the Target off George’s Back” Boo-Hoo or has he got someone else worshipping his dirty underwear?

  21. Lynn Brown says:

    Like a bad penny…LOL Domestic Assault with a wine bottle! At least Volusia County is safe. Back in his favorite ankle jewelry.

  22. Disappointed says:

    O/T Fogen has been arrested on assault with a weapon. Apparently domestic violence again. So IMO charges will be dropped. Basically nothing to see here.

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