Monday night review of the Dunn trial

Monday, February 10, 2014

Good afternoon:

The State rested today after presenting the medical examiner’s testimony.

The defense called a bunch of friends and family who testified that he is a peaceful man and showed no sign of intoxication or impairment at the wedding reception.

Defense has possibly 2 more witnesses to call:

Doctor John Abuso, who is supposedly an expert regarding reactions by juveniles to extremely stressful situations, and possibly the defendant.

Here’s my take on Dr. Abus, who would presumably testify that fleeing from a shooting scene and ordering a pizza after attempting to kill four teenagers in an SUV is a normal human reaction (H/T to Lurker for the snarky remark):

Many thanks to Blushed Brown for providing a link to John Abuso’s website.

He has a D.Min after his name that I assume to be a Doctor of Divinity. He also claims to be an ordained minister.

Where he went to school to obtain his degree is not listed.

He lists no articles published in professional peer reviewed journals.

He claims to be:

Lic. Marriage & Family Therapist
Clinical Member AAMFT
Clinical Member ATSA

AAMFT is the American Association of Mariage and Family Therapists.

ATSA is the Association for the Treatment of Sex Offenders

He also claims to have received advance training in Ericksonian hypnotherapy.

I am not seeing any evidence of a scientific or medical basis to what this man does.

By almost any standard that I can imagine, this guy is not qualified to express a science or medical based opinion regarding any matter in this case. Therefore, his testimony should be excluded under Rule 702 as not helpful to the jury to decide an issue of that nature in this case.

Because there is no evidence of self-defense admitted into evidence, I do not believe Judge Healey will give a self-defense instruction unless Dunn testifies.


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We are not going to be able to pay our rent and electricity for this month without reader donations.


52 Responses to Monday night review of the Dunn trial

  1. Tee says:

    If they mention Charlie one more time!

  2. Pat deadder says:

    This asshole seems to have had no interest in seeing his own seems it’s the son reaching out.
    Did the news report dunn heard that morning say they had a plate number if not IMO they had no intention of going to the police.
    I also think the defence wants 1st degree murder so the jury has to believe the prosecution proved premeditation.idk

    • Liza says:

      I searched for early news reports a couple of days ago. I think it was News4Jax that I found, desribing the vehicle, asking the public for tips, but no plate number in the report. I suspect the cops might have withheld that information, wanting to collect as much information as they could in the aftermath of the crime. Also, if Dunn knew they had his plate number I doubt he would have driven for 2.5 hours on the interstate. He might have taken A1A but that’s just as bad.

      If we had been flies inside that vehicle, the conversation would probably have been very interesting.

  3. Will send my contribution and never mind being reminded! What’s the makeup of the jury?

  4. silk says:

    Don’t b surprise if dunn gets a hung jury. I would b shock if he gets convicted!!! I mean u got corey on the case.

  5. Trained Observer says:

    How long has Dunn been behind bars at the county jail? Ever since that copshop interview posted a thread or so back? Or was he at one time out on bail?

  6. roderick2012 says:

    I will donate after I receive my tax refund which I should get within a week or so.

  7. Tee says:

    I believe Dunn continued to shoot after the car was fleeing because he wanted every person in that car dead or close to it. Dead men tell no tale, that’s why he fired so many shots.

    • roderick2012 says:

      Tee: Dead men tell no tale………

      That’s the first rule of SYG!!

      I am sure he was reminded of that in Piglet’s case.

  8. 2dogsonly says:

    About donations, I did donate 50.00 a while ago but never received any acknowledgement. Just so you know, this may be a reason donations have fallen off.

  9. 2dogsonly says:

    I felt it was a spree killing, albeit unsuccessful. He could have killed everyone in the car.

    There is nothing but a violent history in his past…really horrible stuff. Note worthy that his parents aren’t testifying even if they are paying for that joke of an attorney.

    I predict guilty verdict will be returned I record time.

  10. colin black says:

    I say dunns done and dusted unless we get yet another inexplicable verdict from a Froridian Jury like CAYLEE her swaphag egg doner escaped justice along with foggen .

    Though blatantly guilty with over whelming evidence they scooted off Scot free.

  11. blushedbrown says:

    @Mason or Crane

    I think WordPress is acting funny again. Xena’s posts are waiting in moderation. Could you take a looksee and see if you guys can whip WordPress into submission. Thanks!!

  12. fauxmccoy says:

    wooooooweeeee! this proposed ‘expert’ sounds loony tunes. i’d like to daubert the hell out of him, just for laughs. guess this is why i didn’t go to law school, in spite of the best of intentions 🙂

  13. Xena says:

    What are your thoughts on Dunn testifying?

    • Xena, none of your comments are in moderation. I missed this one Monday night because I’ve been sick and too exhausted to work later.

      I don’t believe this comment was held up in moderation. I think it posted.

      Please try to post a comment on the Wednesday night thread, so we can see if it goes through.

  14. Sophia33 says:

    Jane Velez Mitchell is talking about how poorly the prosecution is handling this case.

    • fauxmccoy says:

      may i inquire as to how so? any specific examples? i haven’t the stomach to be able to tolerate her or her network.

      • Sophia33 says:

        I’m only watching it because it is really the only place I can get news on it here or there right now. I miss most of it. And I come here for an update.

        The panel’s discussion was based on the video tape of interview. They were saying it was a mistake not to put it into evidence. Also, they questioned why there was not a harder grilling of the fiancé regarding the number of drinks to he had at his son’s wedding. They were winding about a few other points that they felt they didn’t grill witnesses on.

        • fauxmccoy says:

          eh — let ’em talk.

          i made a vow to myself during zimwad’s trial that i would pay no (i mean zero) attention to talking heads and i do not regret it. i’m doing the same here. i do have the luxury of being able to watch almost the whole trial though in real time.

          i am not at all sure i agree with what you are hearing.

      • Sophia33 says:

        I should have posed my post as a question and asked if others who are actually watching this agree.

  15. Trained Observer says:

    Can’t help but wonder what today’s string of defense witnesses thought they were doing. With notable exception of Mr. Davis, (Jordan’s father) and Chris Dunn (son of the killer), it seemed defense wits (especially the females) thought their role was to play it giggly and ultra casual, as if auditioning for Let’s Make a Deal.

    As for the defense, the orchestrated message seems to boil down to:

    * Dunn was sober at son’s wedding where a good time was had by all.
    * Dunn’s not much of a drinker anyway.
    * Dunn’s a nice guy, very calm.
    * Dunn’s a software specialist.
    * And didja know Dunn’s a licensed pilot?

    Therefore, let’s overlook the fact that he hauled out a loaded gun from his glove box and emptied a barrage into an adjacent fleeing vehicle, not to mention the unarmed body of a mouthy teenager.

    Why not let bygones be bygones, mostly because cops failed to find the oft-mentioned mythical shotgun or the big stick and because Dunn’s not much of a drinker, you know.

    With this endless focus on the drinking, I suspect Dunn (apart from being a crazy-ass racist killer) is a high functioning alcoholic. Everyone knows it, but no one (not even prosecutors) wants to say it. This may end up being his doom. Jurors will know he killed Jordan more or less stone cold sober.

    • lurker says:

      There was a rather striking narrowness to their testimony–as if they had no idea that they were providing character references for someone accused of a pretty gruesome and violent murder. I missed a lot of details, especially early–but when I tuned in, there was some discussion at the bench that seemed to put something or other off limits–perhaps specific mention of rap or “thug music.” Maybe to steer away from the facts of the altercation and thereby support the notion that something else must have put him in fear for his life. Seems as though they were begging some wedding guest to say that there was some black music played and he was just fine (did mention hip-hop, which ain’t rap, to Lexie).

    • lurker says:

      A bunch of the prosecution witnesses brought to mind some of Dunn’s prison letters, as he reassured various family members that this would all be OK (unless, of course there were blacks on the jury). Even when he was saying horrible things about how more people should shoot young black thugs so they would learn how to act, he was remarkably matter-of-fact and off-hand about the whole thing. Quite different, I think, from Z’s victimhood. Dunn really seems to trust in his own entitlement.

  16. Liza says:

    Strolla looks so much like George Zimmerman that it rattles my nerves. Very hard to watch him.

    Also, I’ve been thinking that Dunn might have more in common with Jared Loughner and other infamous shooters than a garden variety racist murderer like Zimmerman. This shooting was almost a massacre, it was certainly an attempted massacre.

    • fauxmccoy says:

      hi liza — i don’t recall seeing you around before, i apologize if i have overlooked your presence. anyway, welcome aboard.

      both of the points you make are very thought provoking. the first one i can see, but it sounds very personal to you.

      the second one is like NEWSFLASH! why has no one remarked upon this before? there are some striking similarities between dunn and the rash of mall shooter sprees we’ve been having.

      • Liza says:

        Hi, fauxmccoy. I have read this blog occasionally during the Zimmerman trial, but I don’t remember commenting. I commented yesterday and I think that was the first time.

        I live in Tucson, AZ, so I have probably paid more attention to the shootings than the average person since 1-8-11. Now that we know about the number of bullets, their trajectories and the near misses, I think we have to consider that this could have been a massacre.

  17. racerrodig says:

    Donated last week…donated again.

    Malamiyya says to write a book…..that’s a hell of an idea. You could touch on several cases and topics AND from both sides. I was asked to be an expert in several Mortgage Fraud cases in addition to my Consumer Fraud Auto civil cases. I have no training in mortgages, interest rates and the like but having been the victim twice, this lawyer says nobody in NJ has the experience I have to this extent in NJ, which is more than likely.

    Why don’t we partner on one…….You have the legal knowledge and trust me….I have 1st hand knowledge. I’m betting we could make a major difference since the Courts are finally realizing the laws are to protect all parties and fraud will no longer be tolerated.

    The people I’m with (kinda like on here) have gotten much done, like Ocwen with a 2.125 billion $ fine to be used to compensate past and future victims.

    • blushedbrown says:

      Oh that is a great idea. I could be a FREE research analyst at your disposal.

      • racerrodig says:

        You’re hired !! Xena said she’d help some time ago if needed. It’s getting bad for those fraud banks now.

        I vowed that if we won enough in this go round for me to retire of semi – retire, I’m going into consumer advocacy on mortgage fraud, predatory lending, mortgage servicing fraud and all of it. In the 1st go round, the opposing council found some of my posts on the internet and tried to put a restriction in the Modification and Settlement and Release Agreement which the arbitrator (a retired Judge) would not allow…..hell, I was even allowed to name names….like the opposing counsel.

        To show how bad they are at it….Deutsche Bank, Ocwen, Encore Credit, Pegasus Title et al, went through 6 different law firms. We beat them with my research and a small dedicated law firm. They figured they’d wear me out……that’s the key…..patience, knowledge…and more patience.

        • blushedbrown says:


          Thanks! I knew I could get the job.

          I have a lot of patience.

          Keep up the good work Racer!

          • racerrodig says:

            I see you filled in every spot on the application….!!!

            It’s good to see the states are now taking the stance that contract law is actually “Law” and not this “…so what if they don’t have the Note….or were forced to make one up….you owe the money to….

            It took some time figuring out the Mortgage backed securities fraud and exactly what it implies, but I believe they are in for a major meltdown.

  18. Malamiyya says:

    I’m sorry that you have regular and continuing financial problems. I mentioned them to my wife and she suggested that you should write a book on the Zimmerman case. Since you have the writing skills and a unique knowledge of the case, it’s a suggestion that makes enough sense to me to pass on.

  19. blushedbrown says:

    Put something into the cookie jar again. Hope it helps!

  20. blushedbrown says:

    Many thanks for the hat tip Professor !

    I posted this on the other blog site, but I’ll post again for this new post.

    Dr. Abuso’s education and licenses are included on this link.

    • crazy1946 says:

      Here is a link to where the individual received his degree from..

      I don’t see any thing to impress me about his ability to provide any usable data to the court about this case. I also did not see any mention of any papers he has published or any organizations he belongs to that would apply to legal points in this case. Unless Strolla thinks that we should be impressed because he is allegedly a Christian Minister?

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