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  1. Nellie Nell says:

    Hello All!

    It’s been a while since I have visited with comments. I have popped in a few times since the trial ended – I was so disgusted that I could not follow anymore. I am getting over it now though.

    Anyways, tomorrow is payday for me and I will gladly make a donation, it may not be much but I will certainly contribute. I appreciate you all so much!

  2. colin black says:

    They were the modern day epitome of the honeymoooners.

    She the put apon wifey at home he the over bearing buffoon..

    She said they tried counciling so what type?

    Marrige or counciling inner city deprived blahck kids.

    Shw would push his buttons an tit for tat he pushed her until one day she has enough an said she was of to stay at daddys.
    An foggage innncandesent with rage said.

    One of thease days Shellie one of these days Ill go bam straight to the first khoon I see an bam straight to the khoon hollow point bam.

    Sure took her a long time to call bs on the weekly mentoring schedule folloed by shopping at target was a figment of foggages go along to stay on song memory.

    An never let truth or fact interfere with an alibi/good imahe pr building even if it does expose uou as a liar .

    Thos raceist you want money from don’t care you lie.


  3. MDH says:

    Add Shellie’s family and friend’s to the list of people George needs to be afraid of.

    I doubt they are very happy about how the less than a man hit and frightened their father.

  4. ay2z says:

    WESH, OS, The Lake Mary PD, WFTV, all agree that George Zimmerman had no gun.

    But Mark O’Mara says he DID HAVE A GUN ON HIS PERSON and admits that he had his hand on it ‘to keep it from moving, and that his wife Shellie, only knew it was there on his person, because she knew he always carries a gun on on him.

    According to Mark O’Mara. So O’Mara lied in his news conference after talking to his client earlier in the day.

    George Zimmerman is untouchable and now he’s publicly set up the story, his ‘proof’ that his wife is a liar and even this monring’s WFTV ;morning report, has not corrected the ‘no gun’ position.

    Share this if you can.;

  5. Woow! says:

    Judge Nelson and Angela Corey should feel real good about themselves right now for letting that crazy ass cracker go free.

    He is going to explode and another innocent person is going to get hurt again.

    He must cringe every time he walks past a black person. A scared animal will attack and he is once scared sick puppy. Florida this is what he asked for, a rabid lunitic with a gun roaming the streets.

    Hide your children hide your wives there is a black hating lunitic on the loose.

    Knowing he carries a weapon at all times, any person in their right mind would be right if they shot on site if he motioned or reached under his shirt because they would not know what that fool is going to do. He is damned if he do damned if he don’t and all because he is a paranoid zoned out powder keg waiting to blow.

  6. Rob_UK says:

    On HLN – “Is George Zimmerman a danger to society?”

    In other words – “Is George Zimmerman a danger to white people?!!!!!”

    Shooting black kids in the heart is fine, but if he’s so mentally unstable and out of control that he might hurt a real human being, a real American – a white person – that might be a cause for concern!

    American TV is a real trip y’all. Non-stop adverts briefly interrupted by programs and the adverts! “Contyln pills will effectively treat your condition so you’re able to get on with your life. Be advised taking this medication may lead to – kidney failure, blindness, heart attacks, seizures, suicidal thoughts, internal bleeding, hair loss and cancer.” When I saw my first American advert, I thought it was a spoof on a comedy show.

    • ladystclaire says:

      I couldn’t agree with you more, the good ole USA right, where there are two sets of laws depending on what color of the spectrum you are. I can’t get over the fact, of how these racist whites can and do accept this half caste Latino but, they hate those Latinos south of the border, who at one time owned the Southwest.

      Why is it that the one drop rule doesn’t apply to him and his siblings just like it applies to kids that are half white and half black? in other words, they are Latinos because of their mother’s heritage.

      • MDH says:

        The same twisted logic that allows John Sununu to claim that Barack Obama isn’t Anglo Saxon enough.

        John Sununu:

        Sununu was born in Havana, Cuba, the son of Victoria (née Dada) and John Saleh Sununu, an international film distributor.[1] His father’s family came to the United States from the Middle East at the turn of the century. His paternal ancestry is Palestinian from the Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem community in Jerusalem. His father, John, was born in Boston. Most of the last two generations of Sununus were also born in the United States. Sununu’s mother, Victoria Dada, was born in El Salvador. Her family was Greek Orthodox Christian and settled in Central America at the turn of the century. Most of his closest relatives in Beirut have died, including an uncle who returned to the Lebanese capital from the United States several years ago. The Governor paid his last visit to Beirut as a child in the late 1940s.[2]

        • MDH says:

          What is more ironic about what I posted is that, having been to Nairobi, I submit that Kenyans have a culture that is arguably closer to England than the USA.

          Therein lies the twisted logic.

          Apparently, in the Frank Taffe school of racist logic, the amount of melanin in one’s skin has a direct relationship on the ability of an individual to adopt a culture.

          So the Zimmerman’s, because they don’t appear to have a lot of that melanin, can become “real Americans”, although they have recent ties to foreign cultures; while the Martins can never be “real Americans”, even though their ancestors go back scores of generations.

          • Two sides to a story says:

            “having been to Nairobi, I submit that Kenyans have a culture that is arguably closer to England than the USA.”

            That was my observation as well.

          • MDH says:

            @two sides

            Yes, the fish and chips were wrapped in a news paper 🙂

    • MichelleO says:

      IT IS a comedy show.

  7. sighhhhh says:

    We just donated 20 bucks. Hope it helps. I am an anarchist-communist and we may disagree on many points but I know that what you are doing is RIGHT. Don’t stop.

  8. KA says:

    This is interesting. 10 extended minutes of Shellie’s interview…

    • MDH says:

      Holy cow, the things we all knew or suspected are being revealed.

      It was my first opinion that George shot Trayvon in a fit of rage based on Trayvon not doing what George wanted him to do.

      And the people who knew about this covered for him. This is not and American Tragedy. It is an American Shame.

  9. MichelleO says:

    Donation sent. Anyway, D.J. Dean, Shellie’s brothers says that he was the nicest person before the incident, but that the GUILT and SELF-HATRED got to him.

  10. ay2z says:

    The woman in there today, might be after a profitable story to turn to her advantage. Hope so.

  11. sadlyyes says:

    just left a donation,as you know i rescued 12 dogs and 5 cats,so money is tight,however,im thinking of projects to make more,It is hard here in this USA

  12. J4TMinATL says:

    Guess who is still at the house at 11pm Florida time?

    His dumba$$. And he’s scared for his life? We all know what the address is now.

  13. Trained Observer says:

    Two Sides — Probation status a good reason to back off. Restraining orders likely in the works from both sides. We all know how Fogen likes to dish it back with his women … although it befuddles me on how any woman would get within a half mile of this smarm-fool.

  14. Two sides to a story says:

    I suppose Shellie’s lawyer told her to back off since she went to the house outside an agreed upon time and Fogen obviously wants to twist the story around to make her the aggressor. She’s on probation and can’t afford any heat. : / OM sure lied his azz off for Fogen, just like he did before and during the trial.

    • ladystclaire says:

      With that said, at least Baez knew when to cut his ties with the female Fogen but, this fool sorry ass excuse for an attorney, just doesn’t know when to quit with this loser.
      How CNN could hire him as a legal analyst is beyond me. the man is a liar as well as a shyster and, his dirt is going to come out in the wash, just like his clients.

  15. Brandy says:

    Mark Omara said on Anderson Cooper that Georgie DID HAVE HIS GUN! Georgie is NEVER without is gun. Georgie put gun in truck before cops arrived.

  16. Thrace says:

    So George busted up the Ipad because she was videoing what was happening…according to her atty.

  17. Thrace says:

    Dr Drew has pic of the dad’s nose. He has a mark on the bridge of his nose. Looks like a scrape. Pics of the broken Ipad too.

  18. Two sides to a story says:

    “Those a55holes, they always get away.” : /

  19. Thrace says:

    OMG once again they didn’t search his truck, no wonder they didn’t find a gun. No probable cause.

    • J4TMinATL says:

      HLN Showed her dad’s injury and the broken iPad. Omara is stating he had gun on his body.

      • Thrace says:

        I don’t know why the cops are saying they did find one then…unless they didn’t search him.

        • Trained Observer says:

          Tough to spot a gun between the folds of all that flab.

          • Thrace says:

            I was just thinking about that dumbass Ohio gun group that raised funds for him to buy more guns. Yeah he needs more guns to threaten the women in his life and other family.

            Laughing at Taaffe tonight and also Robt Zim Jr – neither of these clowns have any clue as to what George has been doing.

  20. Thrace says:

    Lake Mary POI Zach Hudson on Nancy Grace says no gun was found. The Fire Dept looked at Shellie’s dad but not treated.

    • Trained Observer says:

      The gun was holstered under his ugly plaid shirt when cops arrived.

    • PYorck says:

      O’Mara said there was a gun. Some people are speculating that GZ may have lied about it to the police, which would be illegal in itself, but everything is still too confused to be sure of anything.

      • Thrace says:

        The news sites are all reporting now that he didn’t have a gun. The guy on NG tonight was the spokesman for the Lake Mary PD and he said no gun was found. A CNN Miami reporter tweeted that the truck wasn’t search because no probable cause and it wasn’t part of the crime scene.

        He had a gun and it was stashed in the truck or he was bluffing Shellie acting like he had it on him. Just like he claims Trayvon and that other kid in the neighborhood did to him (hand in waistband).

    • Girlp says:

      If that’s so how did they take his gun? I read they had or have his gun.

  21. Trained Observer says:

    Here is a link to info on the GZ/SZ house that is owned by SZ’s parents — and of course it may well be under water, hanging on a thread with the bank before a short sale. She-Lie has supposedly moved out, with only Fogen living there now. If he starts stiffing the landlord (like he and SZ did at the R@TL) the divorce could get even more interesting.

  22. ay2z says:

    The wife of the Donnolly man, didn’t she say she was in or had been in real estate?

    From the house story on OS

    The people who own the house, an Orlando-area husband and wife who own several pieces of real estate, were unavailable for comment.

  23. Thrace says:

    Interesting Veronica lives in Melbourne FL now. Close to Cocoa FL where that Kel-Tec gun plant is. Watch out Brevard County folks.

  24. ladystclaire says:

    This woman is now a “CONVICTED FELON” all because of her making the dumb choice of lying under oath on his behalf and, this is how he repays her. if it were me, I would be singing like a damn minor bird, about everything I know concerning him murdering a child. also, is this the same girlfriend who he slapped in the mouth for chewing gum? boy oh boy what fools these women really are.

    • bettykath says:

      Not a felon. She plead guilty to misdemeanor. I’m not sure she knows the truth. I doubt that she looked into all the evidence that says he’s a liar. She wants to believe that he’s not a murderer, an adultery, yes, but a murderer, no.

    • pat deadder says:

      So their marriage was in trouble before the murder.That’s why in the jailhouse tapes she said HE would have a great life after this was over and he said no WE to give her hope.
      I think her actions and words were that of a desperate woman who either was afraid of him and his family or so lacking in self confidence she would do anything to keep him.
      He was just using her.Surprise surprise.
      Notice how he made sure his family watched Shelley’s every move.
      Her and fogen were very aloof during the trial.

  25. Girlp says:

    Donnelly seems to be indirectly blaming Shellie, he says the altercation was spurred by Zimmerman having an affiar with his ex-fiance…It’s started already.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      The Fogen nuts are going crazy, blaming Shellie the way they blamed Trayvon. What is it about that narcissist that they like so much?

      • Girlp says:

        Sick how he gets away with so much, eventually his antics will catch up with him.

      • Thrace says:

        Most of them are the type that would never admit they were wrong about backing him. The rest of them are racist and sexist.

      • Rob_UK says:

        What is it about that narcissist that they like so much?

        He shot a young black male and got away with it.

        • ladystclaire says:

          Your last sentence is the answer to your question. Trayvon was a young AA male and, that’s all it took for the racist in this country to come out front and center.

          This is why Trayvon’s fellow Young AA males, burned an american flag, during the marches in Oakland California.

        • Two sides to a story says:

          Ugh, what a horde of utterly despicable people.

  26. Trained Observer says:

    If SZ opts against pressing charges, maybe daddy-o will be smarter?

    • Thrace says:

      The ClickOrlando reporter is on HLN and he said Shellie’s dad was treated on the scene. So he must have been pushed, touched or hit.

  27. Thrace says:

    Whoa I didnt see this bit in the Daily Mail – George is fooling around with his ex-fiancee.

    Friend and key defense witness John Donnelly told MailOnline: ‘George has been having an affair with his ex-fiancee. Shellie believes it flared back up after the acquittal.’

    ‘During the trial they were sequestered, moved from house to house there just wasn’t any opportunity for anything like that [an affair] to go on,’ he said. ‘To the best of my knowledge and hers this started up after the trial.’

    Shellie had harbored suspicions that her husband had reconnected with his former fiancee following the trial.

    According to a close source she had issued him with the ultimatum: ‘Don’t you ever bring that woman into my house.’

    But two or three weeks ago, Shellie and her father arrived at the Lake Mary house to find Zimmerman and his ex-fiancee pulling into the driveway.

    ‘That is what prompted her to file for divorce,’ Mr Donnelly said.

    Read more:

  28. ladystclaire says:

    Professor, I will make a donation sometime this week, right now I am sick with the flu and am not able to go make a deposit in my account.

  29. Thrace says:

    TMZ talked to Lake Mary police Chief. Shellie flip flopped on her story after talking to her atty. The Chief think GZ is bent on trouble and wouldn’t want him as a neighbor.

    • groans says:

      Shellie is an utter fool to be “flip-flopping” on ANY stories, being the admitted perjurer that she is. And her flip-flop / recantations in this “story” will almost certainly come back to bite her when they are used against her in divorce negotiations and/or proceedings.

      She’s now looking as hell-bent on destroying her own future as CAC is on destroying his!

      Also … the police chief’s remarks most certainly would NOT HELP in prosecuting any charges, either, even if they were brought.

  30. ks says:

    Folks I think Fla. law is like most other places when it comes to issues like this so whether any charges will be filed will be up to the prosecutor and not the potential victims (SZ and her father).

    • Thrace says:

      WESH reported that every thing and quoted it from a Lake Mary police spokesman. Victims don’t press charges, they do. Then went on to say they were still reviewing what happened.

      • ladystclaire says:

        I thought they were suppose to be the ones to make that decision especially since a gun was involved. but, they gave the fool’s gun back to him. who in their right mind, would want to live in such a lawless state as Florida, or even visit there? not me!

  31. boyd says:

    can she be arrested for prank phone call wasting people’s time?

    • ay2z says:

      GZ apparently told her to step up towards him, as he held a gun. He’s got this SYG thing down pat with know how of setting someone up for the kill. And she’s a proven liar, charged, convicted with the plea, so who (what jury in FLA) wouldn’t believe him over a woman, white or not. He’s already killed to protect her, ungrateful wench! (snark(

      OTOH, men kill wives when they try to separate, and this guy has already had practice and knows he can do it again.

      I want to know what was found in the garage, or wherever ‘only wood in there’ caused Sehllie to exclaim repeatedly on the end of the 911 call, Ohhhhh…. my… God…..”

      What could be more pressing for attention than a man with a gun. What WAS found in that wood room???

      • ay2z says:

        ops, abusive controlling husbands with anger issues might try to stop , threaten, or kill their spouse…. (sorry, not meaning men in general.

      • crazy1946 says:

        Maybe there was a blonde with a long black dress (on/off) hiding in there?

        • Thrace says:

          HLN is reporting the omg is when she spotted the blonde woman with George. She says something like Ohh my god there is a woman in there (truck?).

      • pat deadder says:

        ay2z says What was found in that wood room.I think fogens previous fiancé I read they are back together.

        • ay2z says:

          Yes, the tape… “omg there’s a woman in there”

          That’s why he was trying to keep shutting the door and didn’t want them to get inside.

          Nancy grace reports, with Taafee’s help, that the police say no gun. O’Mara said that earlier, but confirmed on Anderson Cooper (medialite) that there was a gun ‘ON HIS PERSON’ but it was ok because he acted responsibly. But having hand on the gun area would scare a wife who knows where he carries his gun and it’s always on him as MOM confirms she would have known. She didn’t need to see it to presume it was there and he was agitating for her ro come closer.

          Perfect set up, get the wife to approach you and you have a right to stand your ground, especially if wife got upset about a woman being in the house. He would then have the right to protect himself from her advancing as he told her to do.

          Taffee continues on Nancy Grace to say she is a convicted perjuror, who would believe her and attacks her for the divorce claims she is making.

          If SZ thinks Trayvon was degraded, watch what the Z’s do to Shellie. GZ pulled a sweet deal, getting her to lie for him, and he’s off scott free.

          • Two sides to a story says:

            The Fogens will use Shellie to the max. According to Sundance Cracker, Gladys asked him to dox the cousin after she claimed Fogen had molested her. Those folks will do anything to cover Fogen Georgia’s tracks.

  32. boyd says:

    shes a fool. I’m done with her, Zimmerman told the cops he was defending himself. the same line he uses in all his episodes.

  33. Thrace says:

    Alrighty MOM’s spin – Georgie wasn’t getting his way is what this sounds like to me.

    Former Local 6 legal analyst Mark O’Mara, who represented George Zimmerman in his murder trial, said that the argument on Monday stemmed over Shellie moving. George Zimmerman wanted to move on Monday and emotions “bubbled” over when he walked in on Shellie Zimmerman still moving, O’Mara said.

    • boyd says:

      he”s protecting his new job.

      • Thrace says:

        More from Mark on a different news site. There was no pushing or touching when I got a divorce – lots of cold shoulders though.

        “This has become so emotionalized,” said George Zimmerman’s attorney Mark O’Mara, regarding the divorce and Monday’s incident. “I think everybody got out of hand. There may have been some pushing or touching, that happens in divorces a lot.”

        • ks says:

          Uh huh, sure it does. He’s spinning already with the “everybody does it” defense.

        • Malisha says:

          It also happens a lot in murders.

        • Trained Observer says:

          Restraining orders in domestics don’t mean beans when a gunman is intent on taking someone out.

          Will O’Mara rep Fogen in this or any forthcoming fracas? Wouldn’t that be a conflict of interest with his new media gig?

    • ladystclaire says:

      George wanted to move on Monday, is he suppose to get his way on everything?

  34. KA says:

    I know someone who lived in MO and was going through a divorce. The wife pushed her estranged husbands arm (in her house) when he took a significant money out of her bank. No red mark, no damage. When he called the police (divorce court was 7 days away), because he called the police, even when he did not want me arrested, because it was called in and expressed a “threat” , the wife was required to be arrested. No weapons…nothing.

    How is there confirmed weapons, confirmed damage, NOT HIS HOUSE, and they are able to say “we only heard one side of the story”…..he had WEAPONS…she did not. Her dad was punched in the face, he was not….not he is released??

    What monkey business police dept is this?

    I suspect she did not press charges because of her probation status and the chance of her getting in more trouble (which she was only in for him anyway).

    • KA says:

      I should not multitask

      “…because he called the police, even when he did not want HER arrested at the scene, because it was called in and expressed a “threat” , the wife was required to be arrested. No weapons…nothing.”

      • Two sides to a story says:

        It’s a fairly common tactic for men to assault their girlfriends or wives and then call in and claim to have been assaulted themselves.

    • Dave says:

      Since GZ and SZ have been living in the house with permission of the owner (SZ’s dad) it would be considered his legal residence until he moved out voluntarily or was evicted by his “landlord”. Apparently Shellie and her dad came to the house to move some of her stuff out.

  35. Paypaling at around 11pm PST Professor.

  36. Mary Davis says:

    SheLie is not filing charges. Wonder if she is afraid that MO might slander her and ruin her reputation. Makes you wanna go hummmmm.

  37. Brandy says:

    Wow! Georgie skates again! I am so pissed off right now. What is the point of having laws when they are not reinforced? This whole clan deserve each other.

    • Thrace says:

      Just wait he’ll be in trouble again soon. Is not going to cease till he’s in jail or his family forces him into receiving some help. He had anger and other emotional issues before the shooting that were never resolved.

  38. Mary Davis says:

    @Rob Uk. I agree with your sentiments 100 percent.

  39. MDH says:

    The house in question belongs to Shellie’s father, correct?

    Deadbeat George sure has a habit of causing confrontations on property that he does not own or even pay for; and subsequently blaming the results of the confrontation on aggression by parties that have every right to be where they were confronted.

    • Thrace says:

      HLN said it was her dad’s house and that George’s stuff was inside. This is the house Shellie moved out of when she split with GZ. Anyway, I’m not clear on whether he still lives there or not, or if just his belongings.

  40. Trained Observer says:

    Channel 7 reporting SheLie saying she’s NOT going to press charges.

    Apparently, as usual, he’s claiming she was an aggressor.

    ?????!!!!!????? She’s dumber than any of us thought, if not pressing charges over this.

    Unless, of course, it’s part of a scenario the pair has worked out to stay in the news. Or she doesn’t want Fogen to spend their remaining joint assets on defense.

    • Mary Davis says:

      @ Trained. Exactly.

    • MDH says:

      She might be scared that he would post bail and be able to kill her.

      The pattern with this guy is to confront, cause an altercation, and blame the confronted. He has repeated it many times in many ways. He is a sick man who feels his pattern in invincible because a bunch of morons let him off of the hook for murder.

  41. Rob_UK says:

    Shellie got just a tiny taste of the terror that her sick maniac husband subjected poor Trayvon to before he murdered him – which she didn’t give a damn about.

    “I don’t know what he is capable of”, I thought killing people on purpose “just isn’t his way Shellie?” Funny how she knows his real “way” when it’s her fucking life that is in danger.

    • groans says:

      Re: “I don’t know what he is capable of.”

      That’s another lie, I believe. She knows very well what he’s capable of. That’s why she was so terrified and called the cops.

  42. looolooo says:

    I’ll bet George offered them major $$$$$ in return for their refusal to press charges. Shouldn’t the law arrest him and take away his weapons anyway? GOD I hope so.

  43. Dave says:

    In the 911 call shellie mentioned that GZ’s bodyguard was on the scene.

  44. Trained Observer says:

    Channel 7 broadcasting details, including playing SheLie’s 911 call.

    Among other things, SZ sez: Fogen punched her dad in nose, leaving a mark, and knocking off his glasses. Fogen brandished a gun. Fogen grabbed her iPad and damaged it.

    • Trained Observer says:

      Sure wish Santa would bring me an iPad. These two, despite their cache of debt, have never held back on buying the toys they want? New iPhones come out tomorrow. How many will the Fogens buy?

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Now Shellie’s claiming she never saw a gun.

  45. looolooo says:

    Do they NEED to press charges if he struck her father, brandished a gun, damaged her ipad with a knife, and made verbal threats against their lives?!

    Can he be arrested and have his weapon and permit taken away regardless? He’s a loose cannon! Damn I wish he had fired his gun.

  46. Thrace says:

    ff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS1m
    Police spokesman tells reporters that there are video cameras in the house. Investigators will review video. #GeorgeZimmerman

  47. Mary Davis says:

    LOL These people are just too much. SheLie is saying that her father’s nose might be broken.

    • Trained Observer says:

      Mary, do you think the dad will be smart enough to seek medical examination? Or will SheLie just put on a butterfly bandage.

    • Malisha says:

      HAH HA HA HA HA HA A broken nose!
      Nobody disputes that at his point!
      A broken nose!
      Who was crying out for help? HELP HELP nobody helped me.

  48. Mary Davis says:

    @ Ks. Whatever happened to that NBC lawsuit:?. Well, can’t you see, SheLie is trying to get all the money from that lawsuit. Can you trust any of them?.

    I wonder if fogen’s stupid a** will do another walk through. Wouldn’t surprise me if he did.

  49. Thrace says:

    LOL as predicted –

    Jeff Weiner‏@JeffWeinerOS53s
    Police spokesman tells @renestutzman that #GeorgeZimmerman told cops that Shellie and her father were the aggressors.

  50. ladystclaire says:

    They are saying that, ShelLies and her father did not want to press charges. now that’s a bunch of shit.

  51. Thrace says:

    George went inside the house with Omara and cops.

  52. Thrace says:

    GZ, Omara and bunch of cops at front doors signing papers.

  53. ks says:

    How ever this latest incident turns out, SZ’s side of the divorce case just got a lot stronger. Btw, whatever happening to that NBC lawsuit? lol.

  54. looolooo says:

    I wonder if Joonyah now thinks that Afro-Peruvians are risky. I am positive that Shellie’s dad’s nose is broken, and caused bloold to drain inside his nasal passages, which could’ve KILLED him! The same way Fogen’s bloody scrap on the tip of his nose nearly killed Fogen. If only………… I’ll bet Shellie and her father set him up!!

    KARMA, KARMA, KARMA, KARMA, KARMA, chameleon…………….

    HOODIES UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  55. Thrace says:

    Jeff Weiner is tweeting no arrest. shellie and her dad are not pressing charges.

    • ks says:

      Not a surprise to me. They just want to be rid of him and this certainly helps her divorce case.

    • KA says:

      OMG….he came to their house…this would give him jail time for sure and no cca privileges.

      I am sick. He will kill someone and she had the chance with this to make sure that doesn’t happen….

      She is not changed.

  56. Mary Davis says:

    Look at how many time this POS have been in the news since he was acquited of murdering Treyvon, and nothing good. Now HLN is asking IS GEORGE ZIMMERMAN A DANGER TO SOCIETY?. WTF. All these people know that this POS got away with murder. I for one am sick of him.
    Just let me know when he is dead.

    Don’t worry Treyvon, You wil get your justice. Fogen is his own worse enemy.

    • what 8 weeks since trial and he’s had 4 police contacts!!

    • vickie s. votaw says:

      We always knew they were a little slow 🙂

    • ladystclaire says:

      Every last one of them are full of shit, even Ryan Smith because they knew what he was, when they were on his side when he killed a child. as for this woman and her father not pressing charges just tells me that this was all done for publicity and nothing else.

      Seeing that a gun was involved, wasn’t it up to LE to arrest him any way, regardless of whether they pressed charges or not. he is going to kill someone else and, he’ll get away with that murder as well.

  57. This is interesting. Shellie Zimmerman is about to see what it’s like to be on the “black” side of an issue. Be prepared to be called money hungry, a liar, a perp of some sort, she’s going to crack and everything that she has to say about the incident will come out unless her or GZ happens to be in an “accident”. This is something the SPD obviously doesn’t want to unfold publicly or it will demonstrate their bias.

  58. Mary Davis says:

    Is this man afraid for his life or what?

  59. pat deadder says:

    Mr Leatherman I am in the process of selling my house,When all is done I will definitely donate.Please hang on.

  60. ay2z says:

    Prof and Crane, will see what I can do because this site is a valuable personal blog, personal because it’s yours and it’s Cranes, but also because it’s ours to share with you two.

    It’s a crime that you do not have a full support pension from a career doing what you have done. The likes of GR, the need for people to do what was necessary for him, has to be a terrible toll for those who fight the fight, knowing and seeing things no human should ever have to witness. There should be unquestioned support for those who need to get out of that, for whatever reason whether political on the surface, it has to be a terrible burden at times.

    I’m creative, will figure something out.

    • vickie s. votaw says:

      Professor , check on federal grants for educating people or some grant along those lines & you may find something, I would look for you but don’t know all you may qualify for, also ,Crane, there may be grants for women that you could get, :), I wouldn’t mind ads, it is so nice to read all the banter again.

  61. Boyd says:

    They’ll never ever arrest him for anything. I bet he’s in there telling lies again.

    • ay2z says:

      Let him lie as to why he became a ‘skinhead’ again. Telling, he’s got his NW safety officer haircut on again.

      Shellie is in danger for her life, if he’s following a pattern of abuse that’s escalating to a point of violence to end the marriage as happens when women try to leave.

  62. sherna lee says:

    I rescue dogs and feral cats total 4 dogs and 3 cats 1 kitten.They voted to send the balance in our pay pal to you because they know how important it is to keep a place of truth where one can go. Not much but ALL we had. The coming days will mean that even those with little but willing to give ALL THEY HAVE will turn the tide. This old former Black Panther salutes you.

  63. Mary Davis says:

    These people are unfigging believable.

  64. Thrace says:

    Omara and his PR guy just got out of a car.

    • ks says:

      Really now? No need for MoM to be there unless GZ needs a lawyer….

      • racerrodig says:

        Maybe he has a thing for the Moron man and just wants him by his side.

        Maybe, just maybe Markie O has been avoiding Fogen and this is all Fogen knows….after all….he’s Fucking FogenPhoole, Crazy Ass Cracker at large.

        • Two sides to a story says:

          It really blows OM’s stories about Fogen and ruins his newly launched career as bigshot attorney if he doesn’t keep his client under control.. And he’s still hoping to get paid for his time, either directly or in future jobs, I’m sure. Does he have a partial interest in the NBC case?

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Now OM can tell us how one blow to Shellie’s father’s nose could have killed him . . . : /

  65. Woow! says:

    This is what CAC supports think of Shelly > Psssst she does not stand a chance.

    “Let me get this straight…a woman who just plead guilty to perjury now accuses her soon to be ex husband of threatening her and her father with a gun? She wouldn’t lie now would she???? She wouldn’t use this as a way to win her divorce case and strip her ex of his right to bear arms in one vindictive fell swoop would she? Nah…cant be.”

    “Bitchy wife, who is seeking major money and a divorce from Zimmerman, has called 911
    What a surprise.
    Advice to George…don’t go near your wife or pay her one thin dime. Let her sell herself on the talk circuit.
    This is a domestic thing and only George can get hurt because his wife will always cry, “he had a gun”.
    This is such BS and the media eats it up.
    Stay away from her George.
    That is my best advice.

    “Pending hard fact I will go with a divorce fueled false accusation.”

    “She might be suffering from ‘mad cow’ disease?”

    “Someone wants a leg up in that divorce. The press will allege he has a chemical weapons stockpile or nukes. Just wait.”

    • MDH says:

      The idiocy of these people is profound. The 9-11 call he made before he murdered Trayvon indicates a paranoid delusional nut case incapable of making any rational moves. So why do these George lovers not see the obvious? A sane man involved in a divorce does not go to the house where his wife and father are staying. So why did George do that? Because he is nuttier than a fruit cake.

      Of course, a rational mind would come to the conclusion that “birds of a feather, flock together” applies to supporters of CAC.

    • sparger says:

      I went over there and llooked at the comments. Some of them are turning on George. After all Shellie is a pure white woman and George is hispanic.

      • Woow! says:

        I did not go to treestoopid. Those are random comments from various news sites.

      • Two sides to a story says:

        From my brief forays with waders and goggles, I’d say that most supporters blame Shellie. Those folks twist themselves in knots to support Fogen, and he can do no wrong! : /

    • J4TMinATL says:

      Whatever @ woow

    • racerrodig says:

      Words of “wisdom” from the same assholes who said her perjury was just “standing by her man” and a great thing to do.

      Looks like the few Zidiots left still can’t come to grips with “if there’s smoke, there’s fire” reality with Fogen.

      Fogen…..the only proven thug here.

      • Two sides to a story says:

        Racer, it looks more and more like if someone produced a tape of him murdering Trayvon, or if he does something off the wall again, which is likely, that his diehard supporters would still deny his culpability. Many, many of them are just like him.

  66. ay2z says:

    Shellies distressed 911 call, she’s scared

    [audio src="" /]

    • MDH says:

      About one minute into that, Shellie states that George punched her father and left a mark. He also knocked off her father’s glasses with the blow.

      George has struck an iceberg and is taking on water.

      • ks says:

        Indeed. If that’s the case dv + assault, it’s simply a matter of the cops dotting their i’s and whatnot before they drop the hammer on him. They might release him for now but will reel him in soon.

      • MDH says:

        Rats abandoning a sinking ship may also apply. If people were lying and covering for George and they know that Shellie knows, then the pigeons might start singing.

        • ks says:

          Oh yeah, that’s a good thought. Shellie definitely knows and I think the interview that KA posted with the “Vietnam Vet supporter” and hiwswife is proof that your suspicion has merit.

      • Thrace says:

        And she thinks George broke her dad’s nose…….

      • Malisha says:

        Oh my my, wasn’t it Shellie who said that she didn’t think Fogen had killed Trayvon Martin in a criminal way because “that’s not his way”? Which way did he punch her daddy-poo? In a self-defense way? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

        Not like Fogen to hit first, is it?

        Hey is Shellie’s daddy by any chance a black thug?

    • Two sides to a story says:

      New reports on FB claim that Shellie and her father declined to press charges. . . hope this isn’t true.

  67. Boyd says:

    damm that was quick

  68. ks says:

    I must admit I’m amazed at how quickly it’s unraveling for GZ but given his past I probably shouldn’t be as he just went back to his old pattern of behavior.

  69. Brandy says:

    I think Georgie will get off with a warning, watch and see. Hope I am wrong, this man is very dangerous and needs to be taken off the streets

  70. Malisha says:

    Next time Fogen kills, there will be real results and they won’t depend upon Deborah “Do it cutie” Nelson either.

  71. KA says:

    “Speaking from her Lake Mary home, she said: ‘I’m relieved. He was a powder keg waiting to blow… I feel relieved now that he… might get some quiet time and some psychological help.
    ‘If he had run into a stranger and got into an altercation he might have hurt someone or ended up hurt or dead himself.’”


    He helped get GZ OFF….UGH!

    • MDH says:

      Isn’t that what happened with Trayvon????

      I guess Mr Donnelly does not consider Trayvon a human being. That F’er owes the Martin’s an apology. But as is the Central Park Five case, these shits will never admit to their pre-conceived notions about black males.

    • ladystclaire says:

      He might get some quite time, WTF do these people have between their ears for F’ing brains? he is the one who starts all of the altercations that he is involved in. what is it going to take, for these morons to see this SOB for what he really is? he has already killed a child and, they were more than obliged to help him get away with murder.

      I guess it’s going to take him turning on one of them, before they see him for what he really is.

    • J4TMinATL says:

      Get her for perjury!

    • racerrodig says:

      ““Speaking from her Lake Mary home, she said: ‘I’m relieved. He was a powder keg waiting to blow…”

      I have a lot of matches and a few real good lighters……hey, just point me in the right direction. No Problem !!

  72. Mary Davis says:

    @ Professor. Sorry it too awhile.

  73. KA says:

    Ok everyone, remember that Vietnam Vet that testified on his behalf and ended up being some AUDIO WITNESS EXPERT and was in the courtroom the whole time….well it seems 2 months later he had a change of heart!!!! Furious…so it is not okay for Shellie and her dad was seemed okay with him for Trayvon!

    This interview infuriates me….

    “Speaking exclusively to MailOnline, Leanne Benjamin, a key defense witness at the trial and friend of George and Shellie for more than a decade, reacted to news of Zimmerman’s arrest.
    Speaking from her Lake Mary home, she said: ‘I’m relieved. He was a powder keg waiting to blow… I feel relieved now that he… might get some quiet time and some psychological help.
    ‘If he had run into a stranger and got into an altercation he might have hurt someone or ended up hurt or dead himself.’
    Her husband, Vietnam vet and army medic John Donnelly, added: ‘As far as we understand Shellie had gone back to the house – a property owned by her father – to collect some belongings.
    ‘Her father was with her. It was one of the places they stayed for about six months during the trial.
    ‘George showed up with his gun. It was a domestic altercation. Shellie was getting stuff, her father wants to clear the house out to sell it.’

    • Woow! says:

      What in the flip flip blippty blip…”‘I’m relieved. He was a powder keg waiting to blow…‘As far as we understand Shellie had gone back to the house – a property owned by her father – to collect some belongings.”

      All of these people are going straight to hell for lying for that man. They all knew he is mentally unstable and murdered that child. I

    • Girlp says:

      Oh NOW he’s dangerous. But he wasn’t when he stalked and shot Trayvon.

    • groans says:

      @KA – I’d add one line to the quoted content in your comment regarding John Donnelly statements today:

      George showed up with his gun. It was a domestic altercation. Shellie was getting stuff, her father wants to clear the house out to sell it.

      [Donnelly] added: “I would have taken that gun from him and thrown it into the nearest lake.”

      Well, Mr. Donnelly, why don’t you do exactly that? You know it needs to be done, and your wife knows CAC is a “powder keg waiting to blow” and needs psychological help. CAC has “blown” big time before, killing a child. So, JUST DO IT – before he blows again and fires another hollow point bullet into another person’s heart. Wake up, and smell the coffee.

  74. Mary Davis says:

    @ Professor. Just donated.

  75. Malisha says:

    Professor, I donated.
    I’m sorry I had not done so previously but it’s the result of a corrupt court stealing my money right out of my bank (no paperwork) and then putting through fake paperwork to perpetuate the theft. You know how that goes.

    My lawyer, whom I pay every month for work he did in 2009/2010 (ineffectively because the appeals bench was also corrupt, surprise surprise) will wait a month longer for his payment; I think it is OK and to me it seems only right.

    Blessings to you and Crane.

  76. J4TMinATL says:

    Nope he is just getting a ticket. WTF?

  77. Brandy says:

    That cop seemed to be pro Zimmerman, down playing details

  78. Brandy says:

    This whole thing is bizarre! Just arrest this lying evil POS!!

  79. Trained Observer says:

    Just love this business of “investigative detention” as opposed to an “arrest” … sorta like being a “person of interest” instead of a “suspect.”

    Go Fogen! Do what you can to get your fat ass behind bars … only this time without killing anybody. Mary the Lake Mary cops are brighter than Sanford’s.

    (CNN) — George Zimmerman was taken into custody Monday after an apparent domestic altercation at a home in Lake Mary, Florida, police said.

    “As of right now, he has been placed in investigative detention,” Lake Mary police spokesman Zach Hudson said.

    Hudson said three parties were involved in the altercation.

    The incident comes two months after Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, was found not guilty of murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.

    Hudson added that police are following procedure by placing Zimmerman in investigative detention.

    “Anytime we have anybody suspected of doing anything, we place them in investigative detention until a complete investigation has been done,” Hudson said.

    Lake Mary is a suburb of Orlando near Sanford.

  80. Brandy says:

    Why is this police officer giving an interview, while this is under investigation? hmmm

  81. Brandy says:

    I knew that was Georgie standing under the tree, can totally tell by his body language. I hope this idiot gets arrested!! If not, he will feel even more invincable

    • lurker says:

      I am guessing no arrest. Police saw nothing. It’s a he-say-she-say situation. Probably refer to court as a civil matter.

  82. J4TMinATL says:

    Still no arrest.

  83. dremn2004 says:

    I could not give much, but I gave what I can. Thank you.

  84. Thrace says:

    What’s with GZ and plaid shirts?

    • Dave says:

      Now that the trial is over, he’s gone back to being “white”.

    • Trained Observer says:

      A felony offense if there ever was one.

      • racerrodig says:

        Unlawful entry
        Terroristic threats
        Assault & battery
        Destruction of another s property

        Did I miss anything ??

        If his intent was to plant a gun there so she would be arrested, where would that go ?

        • looneydoone says:

          She’d be arrested for
          unlawful entry
          terrorist threats
          assault & battery
          destruction of another’s property
          and possession of a firearm in violation of probation
          of course…prolly receive a life term on conviction

          floriduh cops love zimmerphuck

  85. Woow! says:

    5-4-3-2-1 Zimmerman family is ready to attack Shelly for calling the PoPo on that CAC.

    I can’t wait to read he mudslinging in the divorce case. I wonder if MOM will continue to represent this fool or is he going to back away.

  86. KA says:

    ABC News:

    “Her [Shellie] attorney told ABC News that George pulled a knife on her today after she discovered a firearm in the house they shared. He then pulled a gun on her and her father after a verbal altercation went bad, according to attorney Kelly Sims….George Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, did not immediately respond to request for comment.”

    O’Mara did not immediately respond to comment? Unlike him….

    • Malisha says:

      Don’t worry; if Shellie’s big bad thug daddy tries to hurt Fogen, he’ll do the “shrimp” move to save his own life. The “shrimp” move was taught to him by the gym guy, but long before he learned it, Shellie was aware of it. On their wedding night, in fact, she reportedly said: “Oh what a shrimp!”

    • racerrodig says:

      I’m psychic and can read his mind……he’s thinking…

      “That dumb crazy ass cracker, I told not to look for her, but noooooo, he’s Mr. Invincible….had to fucking do it. Lets see, if I spin this right we can put up……..Okay, I’ll say…..hmmm, some black kid……in a hoodie looking to buy a gun, growing some weed……..scratch that……high on weed, walked into the house SheLie was in and he just had to protect her. Yeah !! that’s the ticket. Nobody will ever question that one and I can talk about it for months on my new show”

  87. J4TMinATL says:

    This tells me if she told truth and was really staying at parents house day before and day of shooting, he was definitely on edge. He is codependent.

    I almost wonder if he initiated fight and killed TM as a way to get his honey back…for attention.

  88. Donna says:

    george zimmerman is being arrested. watch click orlando live

  89. kllypyn says:

    I donated $5.00r it all i could afford right now.

  90. MDH says:

    Like the Central Park Five case, I bet all those assholes in the media who thought Trayvon brought his death on himself by the hand of poor old innocent George will not have the guts to admit they were wrong.

  91. Woow! says:

    Hey professor. I have the last installment on tuition to pay on the 20th and I will see what I can send your way.

    On to another topic: “George Zimmerman Taken Into Custody, Police Investigating ‘Possible Domestic Battery'”

  92. Two sides to a story says:

    Also this – lied about staying in a trailer in the woods –

    • Trained Observer says:

      She said they stayed in a trailer in the woods up north after he bonded out the first time and before that bond was revoked in June, 2012. That has nothing to do with their subsequent gypsy-style hotel life or the rental house used during the trial.

      • Two sides to a story says:

        I see that now, but they liked to hold that image in the public’s mind . . . seems that was a brief situation. When Fogen went up north to Delaware, he was in a big house too, so the trailer issue has to be somewhere in FL after that.

  93. MDH says:

    I just spotted you some funds.

    This news about that turd make me feel like playing a happy tune. For karma had arrived like the man from MI5. If this tune don’t get you dancing, then you might not be alive.

  94. J4TMinATL says:

    Hasn’t been arrested yet. Being detained on scene right now.

  95. Brandy says:

    FYI- They are discussing and showing footage on HLN right now

  96. Thrace says:

    Not surprised. I’ve always thought George had a loose screw and temper issues.

  97. ladystclaire says:

    It’s quite evident, that this THUG does not belong out among a law abiding society. he is evil and, he thinks he is above the law, just because who his lying father is.

  98. #GeorgeZimmerman taken into custody after altercation with a gun. WATCH SCENE LIVE:

  99. KA says:

    Did it after your reminder. I apologize for not doing it thus far. Will send more 3rd or 4th week of the month.

  100. Girlp says:

    Also, She Lied again, they lived in a $240,000 home with a pool during the trial in Lake Mary.

    • Trained Observer says:

      Girlp – The reference to the trailer in the woods was BEFORE his first bond was revoked. Then she said they lived like gypsies, which they did … in several extended stay-type hotels.

      In Florida, a $240,000 home is no Taj Mahal — and that number refers to Seminole County property appraiser’s valuation for taxation, not the actual market value, which could be higher or lower, depending on whether it’s been homesteaded.

      So there’s no evidence that she lied again — at least on that score.

  101. Brandy says:

    I am thinking SZ was his target! Well, that didn’t take Georgie very long now did it? His TRUE COLORS shining through, Karma train is rolling down the tracks.

  102. ladystclaire says:

    Who, who I say, is the real thug in this case, we all know exactly who it is and, I’ll bet he isn’t taking ShelLies filing for a divorce none too good. they said that there were three people involved. I wonder what his supporters think of him now.

    • vickie s. votaw says:

      They love his stupid ass, I can’t believe they are still shoveling $$ at him, yuck!

      • ladystclaire says:

        Well, I guess the old saying is true, in that birds of a feather flock together. with him pulling first a knife and, than a gun on her, his fat ass belongs in jail. why is the state of Florida molly coddling his fat ass?

  103. sparger says:

    I thought George would last until the New Year before he got arrested again. Since is DM with a gun will he lose his gun permiit?

  104. ladystclaire says:

    BREAKING NEWS FROM CNN: George Zimmerman is in POLICE CUSTODY for a domestic dispute in Lake Mary Fla. it appears that he is in custody in an Orlando Fla. jail.

  105. Brandy says:

    He is in custody right now. CNN is discussing the latest on this Situation

  106. Brandy says:

    Just heard that George Zimmerman got arrested for some kind of domestic abuse!! Love it

  107. looneydoone says:

    Trying to update my paypal info fucked everything up, and they are non-responsive to requests for assistance in resolving the mess.

    Will drop off a donation for you at the mail forwarding service…check your mailbox in approx 5-8 days

  108. Judy75201 says:

    I made my donation yesterday. I hope you have received it.

  109. vickie s. votaw says:

    Prof, looks like you are kind of screwed , what happened to all those people who were so busy calling folks trolls? I haven’t been back since Fogen’s verdict, I think I can spare a dime. Hang in there. Thank God I can work to supplement my social security. Peace out, keep your chin up.

  110. Rachael says:

    I’m sorry I can’t help. I don’t qualify for SSD because despite IBS and psoriatic arthritis keeping me basically home-bound, I am “able to work” despite making about half of minimum wage right now typing at home. I had to pawn jewelry and was still short rent because my computer was down last week. with no computer no $. I was still short for rent but credit union overdraft protection covered it thank God so now the money from pawning my ring will buy dog food abd toilet paper til next payday. I’ll worry about my other bills later. at least I have my rent paid and I took in a roomate so hopefully things will be looking up. I won’t read here anymore because I feel guilty and can’t afford it. Thanks for all you do.

    • KA says:

      Rachael, prayers for you that your situation gets better. We feel like family….you should not feel guilty. I am sure that those that can will cover for those going through a tough time.

      No guilt on it! Your comments and participation is always appreciated and looked forward to.

      • Trained Observer says:

        x 2 Rachael.
        Hope the roommate provides the much needed revenue stream but pleasant companionship as well.

        • Trained Observer says:

          Professor — In addition to donations, what about the possibility of shifting to a blog format that includes tile ads with a pay per click to you and Crane?

          Am not sure about start up costs or other aggravations, but these do generate a certain reliable income for many bloggers.

    • Mary Davis says:

      @ Rachael. Don’t go. Half of my donation is yours. We are all in this together, and I’m sure Professor agrees.

    • Two sides to a story says:

      Prayers for you, Rachael.

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