Featuring: LLMPapa Does SPD Officer Adam Johnson

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126 Responses to Featuring: LLMPapa Does SPD Officer Adam Johnson

  1. ladystclaire says:

    I’m wondering if Trayvon saw Fogen, Taaffe and Osterman doing something illegal and, that is when Fogen got the notion to call LE and report a suspicious person walking in his neighborhood speech, which he made sure to mention the break ins that he claims had been occurring there.

    this IMO was his reason to get out of his vehicle and follow him along with who ever was in his truck and, the look out at the (I think) back entrance. I don’t think this is too far fetched to believe that Fogen and his band of merry *THUGS* were fencing stolen goods out of state and, some of those goods came from the home of their very own neighbors. after all, what kind of business venture were they in, that required them to be mailing boxes with a postage fee of $200.00?

    they were definitely involved in something that was very *ILLEGAL* and I don’t think I’m wrong about my *SUSPICION* of these thieving *THUGS* and, Trayvon seeing something he wasn’t suppose to see.

    • Cercando Luce says:

      THAT would finally yield some kind of motive for this seemingly motiveless crime. Hmmmmmm. I think you and Xena have got something there.

      • Xena says:

        I think you and Xena have got something there.

        Well, my theory centers around GZ using NW as a cover-up for crime committed by his mentored/recruits. Now that Lonnie has shed some light on Burgess, I am more interested in what Burgess was previously arrested for, and on probation for. Burgess might be the man that GZ fears.

        (How would GZ know where the guys were running to unless he followed them? In the alternative, he knew where they were running because he knew them and by him giving the clubhouse address to the cops, also knew they would get away.)

        I don’t see that Trayvon knew or saw anything that evening other than a creepy guy following him.

    • If you’re right, that would turn this case into a premeditated murder with aggravating circumstances, a potential capital murder case in other words.

      Don’t know if there is any evidence to support your suspicion, but it’s certainly an interesting theory.

    • seallison says:

      I have said this from day one. Fogen went door-to-door canvassing with a clipboard. I would like to see the notes. When LE asked him if there was any security cameras working in the area where the shooting happened and he said — none that I know of, I knew he was well aware of what was going on in that little area.

      He had some people even letting him know when they were going on holidays, etc.. What questions did he ask when he had that clipboard:

      Pets,
      Hours of work
      Family members
      Security System in place
      Guns in home
      Security cameras

      You know, general information about home security – perfect cover for a scam in the making, perfect location for it too.

      • Xena says:

        You know, general information about home security – perfect cover for a scam in the making, perfect location for it too.

        Yep, “and if you see anyone suspicious, call 911 then call me so I can call my boys to tell them to run.”

      • Lonnie Starr says:

        As a general rule, if a thief such as Burgess has a stolen laptop in someone elses knapsack, the usual routine is for everyone to deny that it belongs to them and state that they found it. Instead, Burgess claims it! Even though he knows it’s stolen?

        Think about it, he ran, but after the police finish handcuffing the other two, one then takes off to chase down Burgess, he catches him not to far away, just in the next community over, behind the RATL buildings. He’s run perhaps less then 50 feet. Just enough to be out of sight of the others. A police snitch will always get cover, the police will pretend to rough him up and/or harass him, take him into the car or up an alley, anywhere out of sight, so they can talk.
        It’s an old game. They can’t be seen being friendly with the informer, or he’s toast and can’t get any info.

        The laptop was worth 3,000 dollars, but was probably too hot for GZ to handle, there being a police report out on it, and GZ would probably know, with his connections. Even the liaison puts in a good word for GZ with the Chief, and thanks him for putting in a good word with the Chief for her. The emails show there was a pretty chummy relation going on with her and GZ and the Chief. The only thing missing is GZ’s connections to the thieves working the nearby communities and the RATL.

        I think that when that connection is made, things will begin to fall into place, if the FBI hasn’t already found it and therefore already knows what was up with that.

      • Malisha says:

        Somebody phoned in to the police in Sept 2011 to say that a guy was running around the neighborhood knocking on doors to ask people questions, carrying his clipboard. They said he did not show i.d. Knocking on doors, canvassing neighborhoods, asking questions, “just looking about.”

    • You all have thoughtful comments says:

      I think that, if the prosecution thought this was the case, they could access gz’s Ebay and Paypal.

      Right now, the prosecution has a strong case for 2nd degree murder. I don’t think they would want to confuse the jury with other theories.

      If they thought anyone else was involved, I think they would wait until after they had a gz conviction first before going after any supporting actors.

  2. Aunt Bea says:

    Professor says:

    One fact we do know for certain is that the defendant was not calling 911 for emergency assistance after he shot Trayvon.

    I went to “^5” you, but…..
    I haven’t seen his phone records. Are they available?

    • His phone records have not been made available and will not be until the trial (or possibly the immunity hearing).

      I said he did not call 911 to request emergency assistance after shooting Trayvon because we have a photo purportedly of the back of his head after the shooting while he is talking to someone on the phone before the police arrived at the scene. We have had lots of discussion and speculation here regarding the identity of the person he called. If he had called 911 to report the shooting and request immediate medical assistance for Trayvon, I believe the defense would have mentioned it at one of the hearings.

      Since it would have been a recorded call, the prosecution would have provided a copy to the defense and it would have been released in the first discovery dump.

      I believe he knew Trayvon was dead because he shot him at close range in the heart and he sat on his back asphyxiating him to speed up his death to make sure he was dead before the police arrived. He did not want Trayvon answering any questions.

      • Rachael says:

        I agree, plus he told someone not to call because they were already on their way, also, IMO, ensuring he would have more tome to make sure Trayvon would not be answering any questions.

      • You all have thoughtful comments says:

        By telling them he had already called the police and they were on their, I think he was just letting them know that they did not have to fear him.

      • Aunt Bea says:

        Thanks, thought I had missed something.

        You seem to have more faith in the completeness of what we have seen then I do.

  3. Malisha says:

    I haven’t read any studies and I’m no expert but I will bet that it is not hard to find people who want to be cops in Florida. Just sayin…

    • Lonnie Starr says:

      Lots of police in Florida are officers who were drummed off big city police forces, LAPD, Philadelphia, NYPD etc. They go to Florida and the counties and cities are glad to get them.

  4. seallison says:

    Question: Does Florida have a problem with staffing the Police Forces. If so, is it due to the liberal gun laws creating a higher than normal risk of harm on duty. If so, is it because too many times their hard work ended up in a box somewhere never to be seen again because the laws tend to allow for no charges to be laid, plea bargains, sentences not fitting the crime.

    I ask this trying to justify the lackadaisical approach taken by the SPD in this one case. Does this happen all the time because of SPD being unable to hire quality Police Officers.

    Vancouver, Canada is a port city and there is an out-of-control drug problem there. From what I know, Florida and California has the same issue with drugs, distribution of drugs, smuggling, etc..

    Customs in Winnipeg scans each and every parcel, each and every bundle of mail coming out of Florida and California due to the drug problems in those States.

  5. Rachael says:

    RZ Jr Is going to be on Hannity tomorrow at 9:pm

    • Tzar says:

      thanks, I’ll do my best to avoid it

    • Malisha says:

      Oh he’s preparing his talking points right now.

      1. My brother is a decent American.

      2. We are all harmed by this unreasonable racist anti-white-Hispanic mob’s improper behavior;

      3. My brother has no money and he has PTSD and cannot cooperate with his defense so the trial has to be put off a few years;

      4. The press has been unfair so now there should be a law that nobody can print what I have not approved beforehand;

      5. My brother is being forced to stay in a county where there is a bounty on his head and if something happens to my brother it is all Sharpton’s fault and that is why George has PTSD and cannot go to trial;

      6. The prosecution KNOWS they have no evidence so they keep offering plea deals but we keep turning them down and I can’t say any more about it because it’s all confidential;

      7. We need money because the security company cheated us and NBC caused everybody to improperly hate my bro.

      I predict the biggest “meme” of the “interview” will be “my brother has PTSD and will not be able to prepare for his trial. Poor Mr. O’Mara and Mr. West are trying to help him be able to prepare for trial but they just can’t and there’s no money for the experts we need to defend my brother and my poor brother has PTSD from the beatings and the racist hatred.

      You read it here first.

      • seallison says:

        Yesterday on Twitter, he doxed the wrong DeeDee – the same DeeDee as the pee-nuts.

        • Xena says:

          @seallison. Around 1998 when AOL began unlimited internet time for a flat monthly rate, handles were introduced. They were not as creative as they are today and it was generally easy to find someone on the internet. Of course, back then there were forums rather than blogs and websites where comments can be posted.

          Now, the internet is used by so many that when people register for a site or service, their handle or real name is already taken. This is a big world and just because someone thinks they may know the real name of a person on the internet, even on Twitter or Facebook, does not mean it’s the person they are looking for.

          No one should be harassed and particularly, they should not be harassed due to mistaken identity.

      • Aunt Bea says:

        Xena says:
        No one should be harassed and particularly, they should not be harassed due to mistaken identity.

        XXXXXXXXX

        I ran across a program/app that you plug in your name and it will tell you how many other folks share your name.
        There is only one of me…….cool, huh?

        • Xena says:

          @Aunt Bea

          I ran across a program/app that you plug in your name and it will tell you how many other folks share your name.
          There is only one of me…….cool, huh?

          Cool. 🙂 You know your name. DeeDee’s real name is publicly unknown, and the Zidiots are guessing for her real name and doxing people who are not her.

      • ChrisNY~Laurie says:

        seallison-

        Thanks for mentioning his twitter…I’m reading it now and am quite amused some of the things he writes, but let us all not forget that Jr. said when he first created his twitter acct. that it was the family’s acct, not just his. So, now I’m going to try and see if I can figure out which comments belong to him and which ones belong to Fogen.

        I don’t see the tweet of him doxing Deedee though.

      • ChrisNY~Laurie says:

        Still didn’t see it. I had to stop reading because I almost joined in and tweeted him…he sounds just like the treenuts! I am so glad I didn’t tweet, my twitter has my real name and info!

      • seallison says:

        ChrisNY – Oh – He has been removing Tweets about it. Don’t even try to ask him questions that he may not like. He will block you. You will not get an answer anyway. I read his Twitter. But, he blocked me when I asked a question about one of his comments. He said that Fogen reached into a chest pocket for his phone;

        As far as the Doxing goes, he was removing all reference to it after he made a policy against any one doing such.

    • sdunn5 says:

      On Sean Hannty are you serious, Hannity is a witness for the Prosecution in this case…..Much talk about reports witness names…just a thought but what makes anyone think these witness names i.e. Jon John Jeremy etc.etc. are the real names of said witnesses? If their identity was compromised I can assume the Prosecutor would have addressed this. As for the evolving Police and Witness statements on certain sites….Axiom Amnesia seems to have left the building circa 7th supplemental discovery. There is a reason for this.

  6. Malisha says:

    Had Johnson come forward and blown the whistle on his buddies on the Force, I would now oppose anybody mocking his dumbass, but as it is, since he never blew the whistle, he’s fair game as far as I’m concerned. Here’s what I have for Johnson, he can come get it: oh well, never mind. 😈

  7. Malisha says:

    From the first moment any cop was on the scene, and I believe even before a cop was on the scene, this was a fix, and that is why it was handled so sloppily. ALL THE COPS THERE were already informed that there would be no charges for them to have to substantiate. They were not even doing cop work, just going through the motions to make the neighbors (those neighbors who were not already in on the fix, that is) think they were doing the work the taxpayers paid for them to do. From a guy reporting license plates without securing the shooter’s car to the guy taking the picture of one part of a defendant to another guy dealing with “the gun” to another defendant writing about officers trying to revive Trayvon Martin (something so fishy about that story that I’m not buying that either) to the one saying they couldn’t air-lift Martin to get intensive medical care because of the weather WHILE a helicopter flew overhead, the gang that couldn’t cover-up straight was doing things we know to be wrong, corrupt, stupid, and cosmetic. I do not give them a pass, not one of them, I do not defend anything LLMPapa wants to mock. Go to!

    • Xena says:

      From the first moment any cop was on the scene, and I believe even before a cop was on the scene, this was a fix, and that is why it was handled so sloppily.

      A good question for the State for Smith and/or Jon, is what time did Jon have to take photos before Smith arrived? In that photo of the back of GZ’s head, he is not handcuffed. He is using his cell phone. Yet, according to GZ, he will have us believe that within seconds of Jon coming out with a flashlight, Smith appeared and handcuffed him — says nothing about a resident taking a photo of his head.

      It’s what is left out that makes one wonder about what really happened and was discussed after GZ shot Trayvon.

      • looneydoone says:

        Trayvon was murdered at 7:17pm
        SFD E38 arrival time 7:37pm

        Why a 20 minute delay ? Who called it in ? What time was E38/Paramedic unit notified of a shooting by dispatch ? National response time standard is -6 minutes. This delay has always troubled me

        • Xena says:

          @looneydoone. Admittedly, I’m not one who studies time in this case other than GZ’s NEN call. I pay attention to what is said. GZ makes no mention that he had time to pose for a photograph before Smith arrived and handcuffed him. Jon doesn’t address that either in his statement.

          Trayvon was pronounced dead at 7:30 p.m. The times in reports submitted by the SPD could reflect when the dispatcher hit the enter key, or when a process was stopped. It’s difficult to tell.

        • blushedbrown says:

          @looneydoone

          Here are the times from discovery page 183 Regarding Engine #38

          2/26/2012 19:21 Call Rec’d
          2/26/2012 19:20 Incident Onset Time

          2/26/2012 19:21 Dispatched
          2/26/2012 19:22 Depart
          2/26/2012 19:27 Arrive location
          2/26/2012 19:40 Patient Contact(GZ)
          2/26/2012 19:51 Available

          http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/05/17/us/trayvon-martin-documents.html

          Gunshot heard in Wit 11 call at 7:16:56

          Officer T Smith arrives @ 7:19

          EMT Depart time from another location @ 7:22
          Arrive 5 minutes later from depart time @ 7:27
          Sgt. Raimundo checks for a pulse.
          Ayala second on scene starts CPR along with Sgt. McCoy (per second discovery dump page 2 of 284)

          Trayvon pronounced dead at 7:30

          So they did arrive in a timely manner. they was nothing that could be done for him.

      • looneydoone says:

        I suspect the delay in calling for Emergency medical response was deliberate.

        • Xena says:

          I suspect the delay in calling for Emergency medical response was deliberate.

          The first 911 call (the one that captured GZ’ voice and Trayvon’s screams for help ), the caller said “maybe both” when asked if she was calling for police or medical. Trayvon was shot while that person was still on the phone. Other residents also called reporting gunshots. I doubt there was a deliberate delay and also, getting there faster would not have saved Trayvon’s life. IIRC, the ME said that the bullet destroyed 25 percent of Trayvon’s heart.

        • One fact we do know for certain is that the defendant was not calling 911 for emergency assistance after he shot Trayvon.

      • ChrisNY~Laurie says:

        I agree Professor, Fogen not once was concerned for the person he just shot. He never told anybody to call an ambulance, because he just shot someone. Sure, he can say that he knew cops were on their way because he called and he knew that a witness called 911, but he did not ask anyone to get medical attention to the person in their late teens that lies on the ground not moving. No, all he was worried about was being shot by the cops when they did get there.

        Oh he is a sick individual and I hope that fact speaks to the jury.

        • Yes, I think his behavior in making certain Trayvon was dead before the police arrived establishes the “depraved mind” element of the murder 2 charge.

          And his brother goes on tour calling him “a decent American?”

          Blasphemy!

        • Xena says:

          …but he did not ask anyone to get medical attention to the person in their late teens that lies on the ground not moving …

          Since he was (according to Junior) seconds away from being spoon fed and wearing diapers, he didn’t call, neither ask anyone to call 911 for HIS medical attention either.

      • looneydoone says:

        Thanks, Blushed Brown
        But there’s another discrepancy I’m interested in
        SFD Incident Report #12-1372 written by Paramedic Brandy states R38 and E38 arrived at 1937 hrs (7:37pm) 20 minutes after the shooting and departed from the scene at 1751 hrs (7:51pm)…total time on scene 14 minutes.

        A 20 minute response time is unacceptable, particularly since SFD has a Mutual Assistance Agreement with 2 other nearby FD’s. In most cities, any report of someone being shot dispatch immediately sends both Police and EMS simultaneously in response

      • looneydoone says:

        Blushed Brown,
        The Incident Report written by Paramedic Brandy is in the 12 July, 284 page discovery dump. Sorry, I didn’t make note of the page. I’ve since changed to a new laptop, lost my bookmarks and the link to the entire pdf file ;-(

      • looneydoone says:

        Blushed Brown,
        “What do you (I) think?”

        I think it’s a very good thing there are reliable reports from the Medical Examiner, FDLE and the Forensics Lab.

    • Kelly Payne says:

      Are you saying there was a chance how ever slight,they could have saved Trayvon’s lfe and they didn’t take it?

  8. acemayo says:

    Also it is odd at the crime area, two diff people took pictures head
    but neither one a picture both front and back of his head. Also
    cell phones today have bulit in camera in them all the offices at
    the crimes area could have tooken pictures

    • Xena says:

      @acemayo.

      …but neither one a picture both front and back of his head…

      I remember being present once for photographs by the cops of a person who had been physically assaulted. The majority of the injuries were to her arms and legs. The first pic taken was of the person’s face and the second was a full frontal pic. The cop said, “This is so we know it’s her.”

      Since Jon did not take a photo of GZ’s face, (and I have not seen a signed affidavit by him swearing that it’s GZ), the State might be able to successfully argue that it not be admitted into evidence.

    • rayvenwolf says:

      I always thought it was strange as well that only a picture of the back of GZ’s face was taken by the neighbor when you had everyone and their mother saying his face was covered with blood, was unrecognizable etc.

  9. acemayo says:

    If GZ head was cover by blood at least 45% and his nose was broken and bleeding isn’t it by law since these area is in the head
    area he must go to the doctor and get look at.

    • Dave says:

      I don’t know about that but, since the killer had stated that his head had been repeatedly bashed on the sidewalk, the cops should have sent him to the hospital to have his melon xrayed. If he had suffered head injuries he could have been considered incompetent to make decisions regarding medical treatment and should have been rushed to the nearest emergency room for his own wellbeing.

      • seallison says:

        Not only that, I think if anything had happened to him enroute or at the station, the SPD may have been liable for not insisting he go.

      • Aunt Bea says:

        You are right on the money with this, Dave.
        I, as a bystander, would have been concerned about his calmness. Hell, a near-miss of some critter in the road makes me shake for a couple miles. His calmness and his lack of “conversation” would make me think he did have a closed-head brain injury. Turns out, that is his normal demeanor…..

    • rayvenwolf says:

      It probably would in any other situation where such information is actually given to the EMTs. According to them they didn’t hear one word about the hows and whys of GZ’s injuries. If they had been given the information they would have pushed for transport to the er. As it was they simply said he MIGHT need stitches.

      And frankly I wouldn’t not acknowledge that 45% estimate only because it came from an EMT who didn’t directly tend to GZ and if I am remembering correctly, despite having some time under his belt has never advanced from his current position.

  10. Zhickel says:

    Sorry, but I think LLMPapa dopped the ball on this one.

    You do good work but deriding stereotypes from TV shows is a cheap shot and unproductive.

    • Xena says:

      Maybe the purpose is to demonstrate that the report was written like that of a TV show????

      • Malisha says:

        I agree with that. The police who brought Fogen in acted very irresponsibly, and outside their rules and regulations I AM SURE, in that they (a) patted him down without gloves on; (b) did not do a proper search; (c) stuck something into the truck of the squad car — it cannot be determined from the video what it is that the officer stuffed in there, all balled up; (d) did not insist that he visit the emergency room to get his injuries documented, at the very least; (e) clearly had agreements with him in place; (f) acted like some buddies were just hangin out together; and (g) wrote up their reports in a very strange, contrived and peculiar way, including the “hooked his thumbs in his pants” part. It’s just so peculiar that it begs for some commentary. And forgive me, but I think the entire SPD, every nook and cranny, every officer, every action taken or omitted, is fair game for any kind of public censure OR comedy as they were part of a cover-up that would have meant, had it succeeded, that they agreed to allow the murder of a child because it did not even offend them that he had been “taken out” on their watch. I think the SPD is guiltier than Fogen for the death of Trayvon Martin AND FOR THE subsequent torment of his family, friends, supporters, and of other African Americans who seek justice. The murder was followed by murderous, bigoted, racist, disgusting, thuggish, harrowing misconduct by a gang of racist punks with whom I am ashamed to share DNA. And some of them carry a badge from the SPD.

    • LLMPapa says:

      The sole purpose of the Officer Adam Johnson vid was to establish the apparent importance of involvement for a report to have been filed.

      SPD didn’t require a report from the Officer who hooked his thumbs in his pants while watching Zimmerman or THIS OFFICER either:

      • papa813 says:

        A report wasn’t filed from the Officer who could document where Zimmerman parked his vehicle MOMENTS before he killed this child?

        The same vehicle that wasn’t impounded for any type of evidentiary value?

        I’d just like to know why all those reports from the Officers, whose primary stated involvement was helping stretch the yellow crime scene tape, are MORE important to the SPD’s investigation.

      • LLMPapa says:

        A report wasn’t filed from the Officer who could document where Zimmerman parked his vehicle MOMENTS before he killed this child?

        The same vehicle that wasn’t impounded for any type of evidentiary value?

        I’d just like to know why all those reports from the Officers, whose primary stated involvement was helping stretch the yellow crime scene tape, are MORE important to the SPD’s investigation.

      • Tzar says:

        my goodness…this case is a mess…shoddy is kind when describing the work the SPD did, criminal is more appropriate

      • Two sides to a story says:

        LOLOLOL – “Guess you can’t have too many reports cluttering up your case” – you made my day, LLMPapa!

  11. Xena says:

    (Following along after a long nap. )

  12. Jun says:

    I wonder if Fogenhats’ original lawyers tried to get a plea bargain but Fogenhats refused… and then Fogenhats called Corey to try to talk his way out of it… I am starting to think his original lawyers saw the evidence before the charges were pressed

    • seallison says:

      Those weren’t his original lawyers. He had not been charged with anything and he did not ask them for representation. They came at the request of Papa Z.I dont think he felt he needed the expense of lawyers when he thought he was getting off scot-free with a so-called defence fund rolling in the dough. I think he was planning to ride off into the sunset.

      • Rachael says:

        They did not seem to lnow they weren’t his lawyers. They said they wishef he’d have told them that when he tried saying they weren’t. And it was long before the defense fund I think.

      • Rachael says:

        Probably Just another bill not paid by GZ, though you are right, his dad got them for him so hopefully he paid them.

      • Malisha says:

        Those two both “were” and “weren’t” his lawyers in a really convenient kind of arrangement, if you ask me. But when they both bailed on the same day and claimed it was because they couldn’t locate their client to speak with them, I think it was because Fogen was planning to fly the coop. I think the whole purpose of his being “in hiding” during the period of time when there were public demonstrations was NOT to hide from the NBP but to hide from the law in case it became necessary. Meanwhile he had statements being made by “his lawyers” and his father to try to cover everything the press might report on.

        When they quite, they said they were quitting as his lawyers, so my belief is that THEY thought they represented him during the time when he was feeding them information to make statements to the press. Remember the sequence:

        Bill Lee said publicly that it was self-defense

        Crump had to sue to get the NEN tape released

        Wolfinger and the spokesman named Morganstern said it was self-defense

        The NEN tape was released

        One of the two “lawyers for George Zimmerman” said that George Zimmerman’s nose had been BROKEN by Trayvon Martin

        Everyone started talking about Fogen’s broken nose

        Everyone said that Corey was going to convene a grand jury

        A grand jury takes time and there is influence secretly wielded to produce a “no bill” from a grand jury

        Suddenly Corey announced there would not be a grand jury and she would announce a charge; meanwhile Zimmerman is about to go to meet with Officer __________ [can’t remember his name; he was in on several of the events and he’s from the SA office] in some fast food place.

        Both lawyers announce that they are quitting and no longer represent GZ because they cannot locate their client

        [Now I am sure he has fled and they don’t want to get in trouble.]

        Fogen walks into an arrest. He was driving a rental car and a gun and a knife were in the car.

        Now those two lawyers were probably considered to have represented Fogen under their own ethics laws. In other words, when they came out with public statements and defined themselves to journalists as representing Fogen, they had to be considered “his lawyers.” He probably did not call them “his lawyers” because he was planning to run and it didn’t work out that way. Their quitting was pretty fast, at a time when there were bets being laid that Fogen would be out on the lam in a quick minute.

        • Xena says:

          @Malisha.

          Their quitting was pretty fast, at a time when there were bets being laid that Fogen would be out on the lam in a quick minute.

          Yep, and it happened just when GZ launched his begging site too. That in fact, he used some of the donated money to feed himself on his way to Jacksonville. Then too, we find out from Frank Taaffe that GZ actually met with Jose Baez before he drove into Jacksonville for what he thought was going to be a meeting with Corey.

        • cielo62 says:

          Malisha~ My theory about the original lawyers were that THEY thought GZ was running. Indeed, it was the best and only “true” window of opportunity that GZ had. BUT GZ’s ego was such that he just KNEW that if he could just “explain” to Angela Corey what happened, well, there’d BE no charges filed ever! At that time, GZ was sitting on what, some $200,000 AND 2 available passports? Seriously, aside from all the stalking and murder that GZ did, THIS counts as STUPDITY of a stellar magnitude! Hubris.

          ________________________________

          • Xena says:

            At that time, GZ was sitting on what, some $200,000 AND 2 available passports?

            The first transfer from Paypal to the Credit Union was on 4/9 and it was less than $5,000.00. Beginning about 4/12/12 is when the money began rolling in and ShelLIE started making $9,990. transfers. IIRC, GZ was arrested that day or the day before.

            As of 4/20/12, there was a balance of $689.27 because the rest had been transferred out of the account. ShelLIE also withdrew at least $11,000 in cash.

            On 4/24/12, there were 9 transfers back into GZ’s account from other credit union accounts, bringing the balance to $126,229.19. Then ShelLIE paid bills and $3,000 to mama Zim, transferred some more money into the account from other credit union accounts, and on 4/26/12, O’Mara deposited $122,343.04 into a trust account.

          • cielo62 says:

            Dang Xena! Way to ruin a wonderful theory! 🙂

            Sent from my iPod

          • Xena says:

            Dang Xena! Way to ruin a wonderful theory! 🙂

            Oh. Sorry. Shall we discuss the $18,000 he received in July 2011, that he evidently didn’t have a dime left in April 2012 although he was working full-time?

          • cielo62 says:

            Ok! He could have gone to Peru on that!

            Sent from my iPod

      • seallison says:

        He also had a cooler filled with food and drink, his computer, etc.. He had the fund set up and he was ready to go.

    • i really found gz’s call to the state attorney’s office so outrageous. i wrote about it a long time ago and i’m looking for my notes

    • Tzar says:

      The chutzpah or naiveté on this defendant is monumental. I can hear the thoughts:*self, you know what why don’t we call this DA chick and explain what happened to her so we can go back to fishing with the dog*

      It’s just more evidence of how worthless he thought the victim’s life was. To think that one can simply explain away stalking, terrorizing and needless killing of another human being is arrogance to the point of blindness or cold blooded sociopathy, in my opinion.

  13. cielo62 says:

    >^..^< meow it like it is!

  14. Jun says:

    I know some people do not like it, but I think it is a good birthday present to make that bastard defendant have to face up to what he did on Trayvon’s birthday. Maybe the state will bring up stuff and they can even revoke his bond again >:)

    • Cercando Luce says:

      The family history of Fogen and his brother not being their Madre’s sons makes me wonder if your description of the defendant doesn’t have a double meaning.

  15. colin black says:

    [Comment deleted as unacceptable]

    • You all have thoughtful comments says:

      revolting and offensive

    • camanokat says:

      Inappropriate. We’re better than that.

    • SpecialladyT says:

      Your comment should be deleted. Unacceptable behavior from a Trayvon supporter!

      [the comment has been deleted]

    • Dave says:

      Tasteless and pointless. Not even vaguely funny.

    • Professor, if Colin does not delete his post, please use your moderation powers to do so. I would not want anyone who supports GZ to read this comment and think that we condone such behavior. What was he thinking? Very offensive and disrespectful.

      [the comment has been deleted]

      • Xena says:

        Only the administrator(s) of wordpress blogs can delete comments. It is beyond our power once we click “post comment.”

        When you responded, had you clicked on the URL, you could email that to the professor so he can easily locate the offending comment and delete it. If I’m not mistaken, you would need to click on “Home” at the top of the page and then look to the right of the screen for the email address.

      • Xena says:

        I’m sorry. The email address is on the “About” page, in the body of it.

  16. Tzar says:

    that is a professional bunch…/sarcasm

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